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Kiro 12 hours ago

I'm seeing the opposite in the gaming community. People seem tired of the anti AI witch hunts and accusations after the recent Larian and Clair Obscur debacles. A lot more "if the end result is good I don't care", "the cat is out of the bag", "all devs are using AI" and "there's a difference between AI and AI" than just a couple of months ago.

undeveloper 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Strange, I feel anti ai sentiment is kicking up like crazy due to ram prices.

Kiro 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's part of the already established anti AI sentiment that has been dominating gaming. "Another thing AI destroys". It's the status quo, so not a vibe shift.

user34283 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Seems to be mostly teenagers.

Working adults probably have better things to do than rant online about AI all day because of a $300 surcharge on 64 GB DDR5 right now.

fzeroracer 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I think your head would have to be extremely deeply in the sand to think that. Gamer's Nexus has been doing extensive and well researched videos on the results of ram prices skyrocketing and other computing parts becoming inaccessibly expensive

And it isn't a $300 surcharge on DDR5. The ram I bought in August (2x16gb DDR5) cost me $90. That same product crept up to around 200+ when I last checked a month or two ago, and is now either out of stock or $400+.

aiahs 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think this is, because the accusations make it seem like Clair Obscur is completely AI generated, when in reality it was used for a few placeholder assets. Stuff like the Indie Awards disqualifying Clair Obscur not on merit but on this teeny tiny usage of AI just sits wrong with a lot of people, me included. In particular if Clair Obscur embodies the opposite of AI slop for me, incredible world building and story, not generated, but created by people with a vision and passion. Music which is completely original composition, recorded by an orchestra. I share a lot of the anti AI sentiment, in regards to stuff like blog Spam, cheap n8n prompt to fully generated YouTube video Pipelines, and companies shoving AI into everything where it doesn't need to be, but purists are harming their own cause if they go after stuff like Clair Obscur, because it's the furthest thing from AI slop imaginable.

simoncion 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Stuff like the Indie Awards disqualifying Clair Obscur not on merit but on this teeny tiny usage of AI just sits wrong with a lot of people, me included.

From the "What are the criteria for eligibility and nomination?" section of the "Game Eligibility" tab of the Indie Game Awards' FAQ: [0]

> Games developed using generative AI are strictly ineligible for nomination.

It's not about a "teeny tiny usage of AI", it's about the fact that the organizer of the awards ceremony excluded games that used any generative AI. The Clair Obscur used generative AI in their game. That disqualifies their game from consideration.

You could argue that generative AI usage shouldn't be disqualifying... but the folks who made the rules decided that it was. So, the folks who broke those rules were disqualified. Simple as.

[0] <https://www.indiegameawards.gg/faq>

aiahs 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah sure they're free to set the rule for their award show however they like, but I think going with a name like the "Indie Awards", kinda signals to the outside, that they wanna be taken seriously and like an authority on indie games. In my opinion, by adding clearly ideologically motivated rules (because let's be honest, something like E33 isn't a worse game due to their very small usage of AI), they'll just achieve, that they won't be taken seriously in the future. I know I won't take their award seriously, and I don't think I'm the only one.

They're free to define their rules however they want, I'm free to disagree on the validity of those rules, and the broader community sentiment will decide whether these awards are worth anything.

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jayd16 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You're confusing the final stage of grief with actually liking it.

trinsic2 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah that's laughable. There is a huge movement of gamers that want this shit to stop. stopkillinggames is one.