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wnevets 18 hours ago

>A large percentage are there because society does not care for those with mental disabilities.

This is why it's so frustrating to hear people smugly say we just need to build more houses to solve the homeless crisis.

mmooss 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Attributing 'smugness' is a way to duck the merits of the issue. People with mental disabilities also need a stable roof over their head, security, privacy, heat, a bathroom, a bed.

I expect they need it more (very broadly speaking; people have very different disabilities do different degrees), because it's harder to adapt and survive without it, and therefore more traumatizing and destabilizing.

There is plenty of evidence, and it's common sense, that having a stable shelter and all the things I listed above would greatly help anyone. Humans in every culture have sought shelter for all of history - it's absolutely fundamental to humanity (and other animals!). Depriving people of it results in unending trauma - not a state to begin getting your life together, harm from others and the environment, an inability to accumulate assets, and spending all your time trying to survive.

wnevets 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Attributing 'smugness' is a way to duck the merits of the issue. People with mental disabilities also need a stable roof over their head, security, privacy, heat, a bathroom, a bed

But it's only one piece of a very complex problem, it's akin to the magical thinking that is incredibly provision everywhere these days. "Just stop using seed oils and America will be healthy again!"

People who have personally dealt with this know the hard truth that simply providing food and shelter isn't enough to stop a significant portion of people ending up in the streets.

mmooss 15 hours ago | parent [-]

> it's only one piece of a very complex problem

Right, who is disagreeing? Name someone. You've created a strawperson.

The knee-jerk anti-liberal responses (maybe that's not your motive, but it is for many) do enormous damage, by preventing good solutions from being implemented. The same thing happens with climate change, now vaccines, and other things. People are so focused on politics that they sacrifice lives and welfare of lots of people. There are good ideas from conservatives too - cutting off half the ideas is stupidity.

> People who have personally dealt with this know the hard truth that simply providing food and shelter isn't enough to stop a significant portion of people ending up in the streets.

In fact, the evidence and advocacy comes from people who have personally dealth with it, and providing housing does result in housing for a significant portion of people.

People need more than housing and that's where it becomes especially complex.

Der_Einzige 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You better check your privilege re: your oppressive claims about humans needing to live somewhere to avoid trauma. Do you think the Roma have a lot of trauma just because they are nomads?

mmooss 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Nomadic people have homes and possessions; they bring the homes with them. They don't live out in the open with nothing like unhoused people are compelled to do.

There are digital nomads too - they usually have money and live in rented places, but they have shelter.