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eptcyka 2 hours ago

If the issues are trivially resolved, why did the authors of X decided to abandon X? If the issues could be resolved, why were they not resolved? I am using wayland for more than 5 years now, it just works. X did not. Xscreensaver/lock screens on Qubes are still broken.

What features is Wayland the protocol missing to allow supporting Xfce?

coryrc 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> If the issues are trivially resolved, why did the authors of X decided to abandon X?

They convinced their employers Wayland would be better?

> Xscreensaver/lock screens on Qubes are still broken.

Most people aren't nation-state-level targets and don't worry about security to that degree. But they do like global hotkeys.

oddmiral 21 minutes ago | parent [-]

Even when you are national-state-level target, there are easier ways to grab the screen.

For local state, it's easier to just install a wireless camera and watch your screen from behind: it leaves no trace on your computer (you may spot it wireless connection, if you lucky). Moreover, they are more interested in your communication devices (your smartphone) than in your desktop.

Foreign states may exploit your notebook builtin "anti-theft" system, Intel Management Engine ("intel" is very good name for a CPU ;-), bugs in NVidia firmware (fonts, OpenGL, etc), bugs in hardware (create a second display to mirror image from primary display to, even when physical display is not attached, for example), etc.

However, I saw that my Firefox window was spied by Chromium window few years ago (I recorded it on Youtube), so this problem in X11 is real.