I think it’s somewhat disingenuous to ignore the trend direction.

The Netherlands has a longer history of monarchy under their current government (present monarchy founded 1813) than North Korea (current government established 1948). Does that mean you’d rather live in North Korea than the Netherlands?

The plain and obvious fact remains that Hong Kongers would have more political liberties today if the UK retained control of the territory, regardless of the complete colonial insanity of the original arrangement.

Can you name one present existing British overseas territory that has less of a right to criticize the government than Hong Kong? There are still a bunch of them to choose from from.

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woooooo 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Wasn't meaning to ignore the trend, the PRC bears full responsibility for their actions. Just saying that complaints from the British in particular are a little rich.

Also they appear to be arresting more people for speech in total and per-capita than HK:

https://insider.iea.org.uk/p/30-people-arrested-daily-for-sp...

	▲	dangus 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I don’t see any discussion about complaints from the British in this thread.