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catigula 2 days ago

It's interesting that people are very incredulous of there being a legitimate defense reason for this when we have had unilateral unanswered drone incursions all over Europe and the US.

There's obviously some sort of arms race occurring and some of it is public.

The world in on the precipice of many technologies advancing at an all too rapid pace. The idea that technology will become tightly regulated isn't inconceivable.

FYI Sweden did the same thing last year. There is likely a (drone) reason, it's all but completely clear.

pickleglitch 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

This is part of the problem with having an administration that so obviously corrupt and so frequently tells the most obvious lies and consistently acts with such obvious, naked partisanship. You can't trust them about anything.

KaiserPro 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> unanswered drone incursions all over Europe

But thats nothing to do with turbines. Its not like russia are hiding behind wind turbines launching drones between them.

They are just sitting there, well within radar range launching away. they also have AIS on, so its not like they are hiding.

Also if you look at where they are: https://openinframap.org/#8.13/51.48/1.67 there is plenty of overlap for existing radar to overlap.

Also they are the perfect platform for extending your radar network. they are tall, well connected and widely spaced.

dcminter 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It could in principle be legit. But there's a trail of previous bad faith behaviour around the same windfarms.

LastTrain 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, Sweden did not ban all offshore wind projects last year.

catigula 2 days ago | parent [-]

Is that the strawman framing of my argument that you want to stick with?

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2024/11/11/why-swe...

LastTrain 2 days ago | parent [-]

You framed it that way. This is an article about how the US shut down every offshore wind farm project. People are here discussing the fact that the us shut down every offshore wind project. You came in and said Sweden did it too. Setting aside the fact that they did not do that, they blocked some projects, not all - you don’t even know what “it” is because the US did not give a rationale.

cr1895 2 days ago | parent [-]

And, Sweden blocked those projects in early stage permitting, not well underway or even nearing completion.

It's not comparable at all. US defence agencies have had thorough involvement in the permitting process of these US developments.

heavyset_go 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They've been crying wolf for nearly a decade now, they aren't suddenly going to have a change of heart and be honest now.

cr1895 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

There's obviously transparently political antipathy from the Trump administration towards offshore wind development in the US. It's far more likely this is gross political interference by an unserious and vendetta-driven administration.