These things are not mutually exclusive. You can do a great job and learn how to communicate a job well done.

If the company truly promotes incompetent salespeople then I’d steer clear of that company with the confidence that others are out there.

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aristofun 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> These things are not mutually exclusive. You can do a great job and learn how to communicate a job well done.

Absolutely! Nothing wrong with communicating your work and networking. It's better to do that than don't, it's a good thing to do, it's a great thing to help your manager to be aware of what's going on.

As long as it is not a mandatory requirement and expectation of an engineer that puts pressure and becomes a toil.

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raw_anon_1111 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If you are okay with just being a ticket taker who us not aiming for a promotion to a job with more scope, responsibility and pay, there is nothing wrong with that trade off.

I’m at a point in my life where I am okay with the level of autonomy I have and have no interest in being a director or above and getting cost of living raises for the foreseeable future. But I’m 51 and an empty nester with me and my wife.

A line level manager position would be a vertical move. A director is a “manager of managers”.

	▲	aristofun 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		> If you are okay with just being a ticket taker who us not aiming for a promotion I think your extreme example does not refute any of my points and I agree with you. "good manager" is not a guarantee for a good career, it's your responsibility ultimately.