UK offered a rather simple pathway to immigrating to the UK for most Hong Kong residents [1]. But the choice between the stagnant UK and the booming mainland China was not obvious for everyone in late the 1990s, when China seemed to be democratizing more and more (despite the Tiananmen massacre), and growing richer by the day.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_(Overseas)

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z2 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It was a far cry from the full Portuguese citizenship offered for Macau, both in the latter's lack of conditions on acquisition (beyond being over age 15 at the handover), and in passing it on to descendants.

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Portugal-give-full-citizenship...

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btilly 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They had multiple pathways. The top three destinations were Canada, the USA, and Australia. These locations offered a major benefit over the UK - they were on trade routes along which people from Hong Kong were already doing business.

Canada was particularly affected. It absorbed the most immigrants, they were a larger share of the population, and this was a major increase in ethnic diversity. The resulting cultural clashes were sometimes an issue. Here is one that literally doubled car insurance rates in British Columbia around the time I left.

Three cars, 2 in front with the left-hand car being driven by a Canadian, and the back car driven by a recent immigrant. The immigrant sees the opportunity to pass, swings out into oncoming traffic, and guns it. Leaving just a few inches of room. Normal Hong Kong driving.

The Canadian has no idea that this is happening until OMG I'M ABOUT TO BE HIT! The Canadian then swerves right to avoid the emergency, and hits the car on the right.

The immigrant drives off. Presumably wondering about these crazy Canadians who don't know how to drive.

Everyone involved behaved reasonably for how they were used to driving. But the combination worked out very poorly...

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phainopepla2 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would argue that the immigrant behaving reasonably "for how they were used to driving" is itself unreasonable. When you move to foreign country you have to adjust some things about your behavior. Driving behaviors and anything else with such a strong public safety component should be the most obvious thing to adjust for an adult, without needing to be told.

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btilly an hour ago | parent [-]

Question, have you been an immigrant? Do you know any immigrants?

When you immigrate into a country, all of a sudden all of your reflexes are wrong. Some are obviously wrong. Some are more subtle. It is overwhelming, and too much.

While in retrospect it is easy to say that they should prioritize some things over others, in practice they tend to learn from experience after people respond badly, and those who are a little more used to the culture explain why they are wrong. And the experience of being told that they are wrong all of the time will make many hold on to some of their old habits extremely strongly.

Don't criticize how slowly immigrants adapt to a new country, until you've been an immigrant in a foreign culture.

	▲	testrun 36 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I was an immigrant to a new country. I made an effort to learn the new rules. The immigrant adapts, not the country.

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QuiEgo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Related: Vancouver has, in my opinion, the best southern Chinese food in North America.

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bparsons 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A rather bizarre digression...

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senordevnyc 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It sounds like they got freaked out on the road, swerved and hit a car next to them, and now have concocted a story where it’s actually the fault of immigrants.

	▲	btilly an hour ago \| parent [-]
		The theory "Canadians made this up to explain their own bad driving" requires an explanation of why there was also a large enough rise in accidents that car insurance rates needed to double. The theory "it happened like they said it" explains why the rise in accidents happened, and fits with normal driving habits in Hong Kong.