| ▲ | nine_k 10 hours ago |
| > seems not possible in Russia. But Russia has never removed the Communists from power. It removed the Communist party, that's true. But plenty of the revolutionaries were themselves Communists; both Gorbachev and Yeltsin were very high-ranking Communists. They liked the idea of economic liberalization, but the political liberalization was only allowed as long as they stayed in power. I'm not sure Russia has seen even a single honest presidential election. The current "president" of Russia is a former KGB officer. |
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| ▲ | YC34987349872 9 hours ago | parent [-] |
| Calling Yeltsin a communist is bananas. He played a central role in collapsing the Soviet Union by pulling Russia out of the Union, without any democratic input from the people. He then privatized everything, sold it all to the oligarchs and outside American/European hedge funds, and gutted all of Russia's remaining social safety programs from the SU. Yeltsin would be considered the very definition of a neoliberal, and was considered a friend and ally of the United States, which is now something we try to whitewash. |
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| ▲ | nine_k 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | The key thing for me here is that Yeltsin apparently falsified a lot of elections, including his own, to keep the right people in power. Economic liberalization (which had quite an effect) while holding the political reins tightly is very much like the Chinese communists acted during Deng Xiaoping's tenure. The Chinese managed to bring somehow wiser people to top though, it seems. Yeltsin may have used Communists as a scare during his campaign. But today's Russia is in hands of a former Communist dictator, much like today's China is in the hands of a career-Communist dictator. | | |
| ▲ | cyberax 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > The key thing for me here is that Yeltsin apparently falsified a lot of elections, including his own, to keep the right people in power. No, he didn't. The 1996 elections were honest, with maybe slight irregularities in favor of his _opponent_. There is statistical analysis by a professional mathematician: https://www.electoral.graphics/en-us/Home/Articles/sergei-sh... It _is_ correct to say that Yeltsin fought a very dirty campaign, using "dark cash" (the infamous "Xerox box") and unfair agreements with the major media owners. | |
| ▲ | pessimizer 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > The key thing for me here is that Yeltsin apparently falsified a lot of elections, including his own, to keep the right people in power. The US helped with that. |
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