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Aurornis 7 hours ago

> Maybe other people relate more to this post because they more money and no kids.

I have kids, but I don’t think having kids or even a lack of money is necessary to experience the type of burnout you’re describing.

While everyone and every situation is different, my personal experience is that having kids led to less burnout for me over time. I expected the opposite after reading comments online, but it turns out that for me the time spent caring for the kids was energizing and purpose-providing. The job no longer felt like some isolated drudgery without purpose because it played a clear role in my family’s well being. I also learned how to manage time and prioritize better after having kids.

But I will never gatekeep burnout or try to differentiate burnout based on having kids or money. I can even think of someone who was clearly experiencing burnout despite having neither kids nor a job and while not having to worry about money. Burnout isn’t a simple function of life circumstances, personal circumstances and mental well being play a large role. In some cases, certain personality types can seemingly become burned out under any circumstances. It’s a heavily personal reaction.

GMoromisato 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I feel the same way about kids. For me, I think, it changed my perspective. Lots of things at work that would have bothered or frustrated me no longer do so. Having kids is a great way to develop a Zen attitude about some things.

Though, to be fair, you gain a whole new set of much scarier things to worry about.

tmp2375 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It could be just getting older. I don't have any kids, but I care less about work now. It's just a job. Life is out there.

GMoromisato 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This! It's much healthier this way.

8n4vidtmkvmk 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't have kids but I'm learning to be more zen at work. I think its a learnable thing. I can see how kids would accelerate that though

GMoromisato 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Agreed! Being more Zen is awesome and you don't need kids for that.

mkoubaa 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If you don't have a zen attitude around a three year old you're going to have a bad time

thanedar 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Zen about kids and warrior about work!

And work = highest purpose!

GMoromisato 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

LOL! Totally!

sdeframond 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> the time spent caring for the kids was energizing and purpose-providing.

Depends. At 3am it's not.

nnutter 4 hours ago | parent [-]

That's a pretty short period in the grand scheme of things. Before you know it they'll be driving and just a year or two from leaving the nest and you'll wish you could have had more time with them.

thanedar 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This. Focusing on your highest potential is energizing and the rest is what we call burnout. Having kids is what caused me to think so hard about these questions, both for myself and them. I have to justify every minute I'm not with them, and now my life fully represents my values.