| ▲ | komali2 9 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> they would have to do it at a station, where they could immediately get off the train. I think, though, that this would be risky, given that subway stops generally have a lot of people getting on/off the train in the first place. I've seen a phone jacking in this exact scenario and nobody moved to stop the guy running. Nobody on the train can help cause the doors have closed, and nobody on the platform has any idea anything just happened, or if they do the guy is well gone before they can put two and two together. For me I always pocket my phone or e-reader at each stop, unless I'm in Japan or Taiwan. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | mc3301 an hour ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'm a Japan resident... whenever I'm outside of Japan, friends have to remind me to not "leave my laptop out like that" nor hold wads of visible cash or keep my smartphone on the table. Cafes... I'll go to the bathroom or whatever and just leave my stuff all out on the table, meanwhile with my high-end bicycle parked unlocked and out-of-view outside. It, of course, isn't like this EVERYWHERE in Japan, but many many places. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | btrettel 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Here's my experience with (attempted) theft on a train: I once was on a MARC train at DC Union Station. Some train cars have electrical sockets, so I plugged in a bike light I had since I'd be taking a bike for the last part of the trip. The train hadn't left the station yet. I was standing near the seat with the socket. Some unassuming looking guy was walking through the train car, like probably 100 did before him, when he grabbed the light, unplugged it, and kept walking. I immediately confronted him (I was in his path) saying something like "What are you doing?" Without a word, he handed me the light and walked off the train. I found a conductor like 15 seconds later and they called security, who apparently detained the guy. This guy was way more brazen about stealing something of little value than I had expected. I was standing near the seat and watching it! I guess he didn't expect me to be the owner. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ibejoeb 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'm not worried about the laptop. Pretty much everyone knows that any valuable laptop is a tracking device anyway. You should be worried about getting actually robbed, or even being attacked for no reason, while you're not paying attention. Also, yes, nobody's going to help you. Some of it is because of general unawareness, as you point out. Then, it's difficult to know who's the aggressor. Even if that's all crystal clear, you're almost certainly going to deal with months or years of legal hell if you intervene. Successful interventions often lead to prosecutions. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | afavour 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I also code on the subway from time to time and this does occur to me. But there are locations in an NYC subway car you can sit that would make it very difficult for someone to grab your laptop and exit the train before the doors close. It's still a risk but it's not uncommon to see people with all kinds of valuable items (e.g. shopping bags from premium fashion stores) out in the open on the subway. Crazy to think back to 2007 when iPhone users were advised to buy black earphones so the white ones wouldn't give them away as targets for theft. How far we've come/how commoditized our electronics have become. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | schoen 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I wonder what you could usefully do with a Kensington lock on the train. I bought one for use in cafés although I haven't used it most of the time. You could attach it to something bulkier or something that you could put under the seat, maybe. I don't remember if New York subway seats have an exposed bar underneath that you could lock it to. I'm sure locking it to the vertical poles in the center of the car would be extremely antisocial. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | trinix912 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
True, but a laptop is much more of a hassle to quickly grab and run with than a phone. What also helps is having one that's full of stickers or overall looks fairly (ab)used. A pristine MacBook is going to be much more of a target than a random ThinkPad with a sticker, greasy keyboard and 20 scratches. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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