If I am more than a next token predictor… doesn’t that mean I’m a next token predictor + more? Do you not predict the next word you’re going to say? Of course you do, you do that and more.

Humans ARE next token predictors technically and we are also more than that. That is why calling someone a next token predictor is a mischaracterization. I think we are in agreement you just didn’t fully understand my point.

But the claim for LLMs are next token predictors is the SAME mischaracterization. LLMs are clearly more than next token predictors. Don’t get me wrong LLMs aren’t human… but they are clearly more than just a next token predictor.

The whole point of my post is to point out how the term stochastic parrot is weaponized to dismiss LLMs and mischaracterize and hide the current abilities of AI. The parent OP was using the technical definition as an excuse to use the word as a means to achieve his own ends namely be “against” AI. It’s a pathetic excuse I think it’s clear the LLM has moved beyond a stochastic parrot and there’s just a few stragglers left who can’t see that AI is more than that.

You can be “against” AI, that’s fine but don’t mischaracterize it… argue and make your points honestly and in good faith. Using the term stochastic parrot and even what the other poster did in attempt to accuse me of inflammatory behavior is just tactics and manipulation.