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ForHackernews 19 hours ago

I'd be mad if washing machines were marketed as a "robot maid"

heresie-dabord 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"Washer" and "dryer" are accepted colloquial terms for these appliances.

I could even see the humour in "washer-bot" and "dryer-bot" if they did anything notably more complex. But we don't need/want appliances to become more complex than is necessary. We usually just call such things programmable.

I can accept calling our new, over-hyped, hallucinating overlords chatbots. But to be fair to the technology, it is we chatty humans doing all the hyping and hallucinating.

The market capitalisation for this sector is sickly feverish — all we have done is to have built a significantly better ELIZA [1]. Not a HIGGINS and certainly not AGI. If this results in the construction of new nuclear power facilities, maybe we can do the latter with significant improvement too. (I hope.)

My toaster and oven will never be bots to me. Although my current vehicle is better than earlier generations, it contains plenty of bad code and it spews telemetry. It should not be trusted with any important task.

[1] _ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

pavlov 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A woman from 1825 would probably happily accept that description though (notwithstanding that the word “robot” wasn’t invented yet).

A machine that magically replaces several hours of her manual work? As far as she’s concerned, it’s a specialized maid that doesn’t eat at her table and never gets sick.

auggierose 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Machines do get "sick" though, and they eat electricity.

pavlov 19 hours ago | parent [-]

Negligible cost compared to a real maid in 1825. The washing machine also doesn’t get pregnant by your teenage son and doesn’t run away one night with your silver spoons — the upkeep risks and replacement costs are much lower.

ljlolel 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They do and will randomly kill people

emp17344 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Dawg what kind of washing machines are you using?

michaelmrose 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Samsung?

auggierose 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

In 1825 both electricity prices and replacement costs would have been unaffordable for anyone, though. Because there was literally no prize you could pay to get these things.

watwut 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

19 century washing machines were called washing/mangling machines.

They were not called maids nor personified.

omnimus 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Shame we are in 2025 huh? Ask someone today if they accept washing machine as robot maid.

pavlov 19 hours ago | parent [-]

The point is that, as far as development of AI is concerned, 2025 consumers are in the same position as the 1825 housewife.

In both cases, automation of what was previously human labor is very early and they’ve seen almost nothing yet.

I agree that in the year 2225 people are not going to consider basic LLMs artificial intelligences, just like we don’t consider a washing machine a maid replacement anymore.

h0rmelchilly 8 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

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