| ▲ | sheepscreek a day ago |
| This made me want to laugh so hard. I think this idea came from the same place as beta testing “Full Autopilot” with human guinea pigs. Great minds… Jokes aside, Anthropic CEO commands a tad more respect from me, on taking a more principals approach and sticking to it (at least better than their biggest rival). Also for inventing the code agent in the terminal category. |
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| ▲ | stingraycharles a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| All things considered Anthropic seems like they’re doing most things the right way, and seemed to be focused on professional use more than OpenAI and Grok, and Opus 4.5 is really an incredibly good model. Yes, they know how to use their safety research as marketing, and yes, they got a big DoD contract, but I don’t think that fundamentally conflicts with their core mission. And honestly, some of their research they publish is genuinely interesting. |
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| ▲ | CuriouslyC 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Dario is definitely more grounded than Sam, I thought Anthropic would get crowded out between Google and the Chinese labs, but they might be able to carve out a decent niche as the business focused AI for people who are paranoid about China. They didn't invest terminal agents really though, Aider was the pioneer there, they just made it more autonomous (Aider could do multiple turns with some config but it was designed to have a short leash since models weren't so capable when it was released). |
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| ▲ | sheepscreek 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | I acknowledged the point about Aider being the first terminal agent in a different comment. I am equally surprised at how well Anthropic has done compared to rest of the pack (Mistral comes to mind, had a head start but seems to have lost its way. They definitely have found a good product-market fit with white collar working professional. 4.5 Opus gets the best balance between smarts and speed. |
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| ▲ | mejutoco 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Also for inventing the code agent in the terminal category. Maybe I am wrong, but wasnt aider first? |
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| ▲ | stingraycharles 19 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They are not at all the same thing. For starters, even ‘till this day, it doesn’t support ReAct-based tool calling. It’s more like an assistant that advices you rather than a tool that you hand full control to. Not saying that either is better, but they’re not the same thing. | | |
| ▲ | CuriouslyC 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | Aider was designed to do single turns becasue LLMs were way worse when it was created. That being said, Aider could do multiple turns of tool calling if command confirmation was turned off, and it was trivial to configure Aider to do multiple turns of code generation by having a test suite that runs automatically on changes and telling Aider to implement functionality to get the tests to pass. It's hard coded to only do 3 autonomous turns by default but you can edit that. | | |
| ▲ | stingraycharles 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes but unfortunately it appears that Aider development has completely stopped. There had been an MCP support PR that was open for over half a year, many people validated it and worked on it but the project owner never responded. It’s a bit of a shame, as there are plenty of people that would love to help maintain it. I guess sometimes that’s just how things go. |
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| ▲ | afro88 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Aider wasn't really an agentic loop before Claude Code came along | | |
| ▲ | ErikBjare 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Plenty of aider-era tools were though, like my own gptme which is about as old as aider | |
| ▲ | mejutoco 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I would love to know more. I used aider with local models and it behaved like cursor in agent mode. Unfortunately I dont remember exactly when (+6 months ago at least). What was your experience with it? | | |
| ▲ | afro88 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | I was a heavy user, but stopped using it mid 2024. It was essentially providing codebase context and editing and writing code as you instructed - a decent step up from copy/paste to ChatGPT but not working in an agentic loop. There was logic to attempt code edits again if they failed to apply too. Edit: I stand corrected though. Did a bit of research and aider is considered an agentic tool by late 2023 with auto lint/test steps that feedback to the LLM. My apologies. |
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| ▲ | IAmGraydon a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >Also for inventing the code agent in the terminal category. Not even close. That distinction belongs to Aider, which was released 1.5 years before Claude Code. |
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| ▲ | Workaccount2 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Anthropic isn't any more moral or principled than the other labs, they just saw the writing on the wall that they can't win and instead decided to focus purely on coding and then selling their shortcomings as some kind of socially conscious effort. It's a bit like the poorest billionaire flexing how environmentally aware they are because they don't have a 300ft yacht. |
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