I don’t understand how a Microsoft team that respects its customers (and maintains shortcuts) can co-exist in an org that sees their customer as marks.

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secretsatan a day ago | parent | next [-]

Possibly messing with the guys who handle the money make for the loudest complaints

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otterley a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's almost as though organizations are made of human beings who have complicated relationships, differing opinions, and nuanced thinking.

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bongodongobob a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I had a negative view of MS when I was young. Then I got jobs at large orgs managing IT for 1000s of people. I don't know how else you'd do it without the Microsoft stack. I'm not saying you can't, but good luck managing whatever custom ball of knots you manage to come up with and also finding people to work on it for you. If you think open office and some kind of custom IAM solution will work, you just don't have the experience to have an opinion on it, IMHO.

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unmole a day ago | parent [-]

My employer has thousands of employees across six countries, runs complex, multi-billion-dollar supply chains, and somehow manages just fine without the Microsoft stack.

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NetMageSCW 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

How big is the IT department and budget?

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lostlogin 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Hang on, what do you complain about if Teams BS isn’t wasting your day?

> I don't know how else you'd do it without the Microsoft stack

Just fine. Maybe better.

	▲	unmole an hour ago \| parent [-]
		> Hang on, what do you complain about if Teams BS isn’t wasting your day? I've never experienced Teams but Google Chat can be infuriating. Something as basic as showing a notification when a new message arrives does not work reliably. Searching chats is broken in bizzare ways. Add to that the constant UI changes. Then there is PANW Global Protect which randomly stops working and also the Croud Strike agent that decides to hog CPU. Workday, Concur and annoying in their own ways but it's not too bad because I only have to use them infrequently.