> This is the only real reason in my opinion, why IPv6 is doomed to be second-grade citizen for (probably) a few more decades.

Except if you're using a mobile phone, in which case many telcos hand out only IPv6 addresses to handsets. 2018 NANOG presentation "T-Mobile's journey to IPv6":

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6oBCYHzrTA

From 2014, "Case Study: T-Mobile US Goes IPv6-only Using 464XLAT":

* https://www.internetsociety.org/deploy360/2014/case-study-t-...

But who cares about mobile phones, right? They're only second-grade devices.

▲ ck2 a day ago | parent [-]

my tmobile 5g modem has ipv4 but changes ip every single page load, it's wild

I'm used to cablemodems with static ipv4 for months basically until mac changes

▲ throw0101c a day ago | parent | next [-]

Is it per chance 100.64.0.0/10?

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_shared_address_space

	▲	WarOnPrivacy a day ago \| parent [-]
		It could be 21.0/8 ref:https://old.reddit.com/r/tmobileisp/comments/1gg7361/why_is_... I booted an LTE router using a T-Mobile SIM. Within an hour I had changed WAN IP. Both were from AS749 US-DOD NIC `in 33.79.135.0/24 & 21.140.100.0/24.` They were cgnat'd behind TMble's advertised asn.

▲ hylaride a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> my tmobile 5g modem has ipv4 but changes ip every single page load, it's wild

They're probably using CG-NAT, though IP changes that often is a bit aggressive.

	▲	WarOnPrivacy a day ago \| parent [-]
		> They're probably using CG-NAT, though IP changes that often is a bit aggressive. TMobile uses IPv4 addys in DOD's address space. They do change unexpectedly often. And yeah. Being DOD IPs, they're cgnat'd behind tmobile's public ASN.

▲ immibis a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Your IPv4 packets are getting tunneled to a CGNAT server which has an IP address pool.

Your website will load faster on cellphones if it supports IPv6. This is because the packets take more direct routes (because they don't go to the central CGNAT server) and because less processing is applied to them. Almost all mobile networks are now IPv6-only, with IPv4 traffic tunneled and CGNATted. Apparently T-Mobile is the rare exception.