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locknitpicker 2 days ago

> Architect of the Ukraine crisis is Russian armed forces crossing the border and occupying the land, everything else is irrelevant.

Russia's hostility towards Ukraine starts well before the 2022 invasion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_war

neoromantique 2 days ago | parent [-]

We are discussing 2014. Russian armed forces were present there from the get-go, and hybrid approaches were there long before 2014 too.

stinkbeetle a day ago | parent [-]

Was that when Obama capitulated to Putin and permitted him to annex Crimea? Perhaps that was the "more flexibility" that he secretly promised Putin he would have after his election. I wonder what he got in return for it.

neoromantique 12 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't disagree? Merkel and Obama both.