Those claims are all throughout this thread and in replies to my comments.

It’s not a strawman. It’s everywhere on HN.

Such as? Currently, the top comments are

> LLMs have certainly become extremely useful for Software Engineers

> LLMs are useful for programming in 2025

> Do LLMs make bad code: yes all the time (at the moment zero clue about good architecture). Are they still useful: yes, extremely so.

If your comment is not a strawman, show me where people actually claim what you say they do.