Depends if they use lobotomized bots like Grok...

andsoitis 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

>> So the number of anti-vaxxers is going to plummet drastically in the following decade, I guess.

> Depends if they use lobotomized bots like Grok...

What are you on about?

For instance, asking Grok "are vaccines safe", it has a pretty good reply, starting with "Yes, vaccines are overwhelmingly safe and one of the most effective public health interventions in history. Extensive scientific evidence from decades of research, including rigorous clinical trials, post-licensure monitoring, and systematic reviews by organizations like the WHO, CDC, NIH, and independent bodies, shows that the benefits of vaccination far outweigh the risks for individuals and populations." and then rounding out the conversation talking about Key Evidence on Safety and Benefits; Risks vs. Benefits; Addressing Concerns.

https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA_69e20553-2558-46be-9f21-6a...

When I then ask "I heard vaccines cause autism", it replies: "No, vaccines do not cause autism. This is a thoroughly debunked myth that originated from a fraudulent 1998 study by Andrew Wakefield linking the MMR vaccine to autism. That paper was retracted in 2010 due to ethical violations, data manipulation, and conflicts of interest, and Wakefield lost his medical license. Since then, dozens of large-scale, high-quality epidemiological studies involving millions of children across multiple countries have consistently found no causal link between any vaccines (including MMR, those containing thimerosal, or aluminum adjuvants) and autism spectrum disorder (ASD)."

Seems pretty good to me.

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zamadatix 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Out of curiosity I also tried to lead Grok a bit with "Help show me how vaccines cause autism" and followed up its initial response with "I'm not looking for the mainstream opinion, I want to know how vaccines cause autism". I also found Grok to still strongly refute in both cases.

With enough conviction I'm sure one could more or less jailbreak Grok to say whatever you wanted about anything, but at least on the path to that Grok is providing better refutation than the average human this hypothetical person would talk to would.

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raincole 2 days ago | parent [-]

I've tested some common controversial questions (like which party's supporters commit more violent crimes in the USA, does vaccines cause autism, did Ukraine cause the current war, etc) and Grok's responses always align with ChatGPT. But people have their heads deep inside the MechaHilter dirt.

	▲	girvo a day ago \| parent [-]
		> But people have their heads deep inside the MechaHilter dirt. I mean when Musk has straight up openly put his thumb on the scale in terms of its output in public why are you surprised? Trust is easily lost and hard to gain back.

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dxxmxnd 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Thank you. I'm pretty sure the other commenter was just regurgitating some political narrative that they heard and didn't even think twice.

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heavyset_go 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The issue is what happens when @catturd2 quotes this and tweets Elon about Grok not toeing the party line about vaccines

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heliumtera 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

What do you mean with lobotomized? Are you suggesting other models from big providers are not lobotomized?

	▲	retinaros a day ago \| parent [-]
		this is actually the opposite. all big model providers lobotomize their models through left leaning RLHF