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65 2 days ago

Safari became the new IE for a while, the amount of problems I've had with Safari CSS animations and SVGs is endless.

It's good they're trying to not make Safari suck as much.

Unai 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Safari is still the new IE. Well, not really "new", it has been IE all along. It's the only non-evergreen browser that remains, and I don't get why this isn't mentioned every time Safari is brought up. All of their spec implementations are meaningless when the only version that matters is the one forever stuck in whichever oldest iPhone n% of people still use.

Caniuse is pointless, their new "baseline" score is pointless; as long as enough people keep using their (perfectly fine and working) iPhones after official support stops and as long as they are not allowed to install a different browser (engine), that's the only data point you need to look at when choosing which browser features to use.

robertoandred 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The only people who think Safari is the new IE are people who weren’t around for IE.

culi a day ago | parent | next [-]

it's also not possible for Safari to be the new IE because they don't have 95% marketshare. And IE's unique problem was that they pushed features that only they supported. Safari's problem is it doesn't support certain features

Also the thing is that there are plenty of features supported by Safari and Firefox that Chrome is slacking on. Nobody every complains about those features though because nobody would try to use a feature not supported by Chrome in the first place

alwillis 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> The only people who think Safari is the new IE are people who weren’t around for IE.

Absolutely true! I've said the same thing many times myself.

Stating that Safari is the new IE is one of the answers to:

"Tell me you didn't do web development in '90s and have no idea what you're talking about without telling me you didn't do web development in '90s and have no idea what you're talking about."