> AI works.

For some definition of "works". This seems to be yours:

> I'd go further and say vibe coding it up, testing the green case, and deploying it straight into the testing environment is good enough. The rest we can figure out during testing, or maybe you even have users willing to beta-test for you.

> This way, while you're still on the understanding part and reasoning over the code, your competitor already shipped ten features, most of them working.

> Ok, that was a provocative scenario. Still, nowadays I am not sure you even have to understand the code anymore. Maybe having a reasonable belief that it does work will be sufficient in some circumstances.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46315569

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user34283 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, as I said, it is working well in my side project. The application works and I am happy with my results so far.

It's interesting how this workflow appears to almost offend some users here.

I get it, we all don't like sloppy code that does not work well or is not maintainable.

I think some developers will need to learn to give control away rather than trying to understand every line of code in their project - depending of course on the environment and use case.

Also worth to keep in mind that even if you think you understand all the code in your project - as far as that is even possible in larger projects with multiple developers - there are still bugs anyway. And a few months later, your memory might be fuzzy in any case.

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stavros 4 hours ago | parent [-]

People seem to be divided between "AI doesn't work, I told it 'convert this program' and it failed" and "AI works, I guided it through converting this program and saved myself 30 hours of work".

Given my personal experience, and how much more productive AI has made me, it seems to me that some people are just using it wrong. Either that, or I'm delusional, and it doesn't actually work for me.

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SamPatt 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The models are good enough now that anyone who says AI doesn't work is either not acting in good faith or is staggeringly bad at learning a new skill.

It's not hard to spend a few hours testing out models / platforms and learning how to use them. I would argue this has been true for a long time, but it's so obviously true now that I think most of those people are not acting in good faith.

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PostOnce 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What about "I attempted to guide it and it took 5 times longer and I ended up having to do the entire thing myself anyway"?

	▲	stavros 42 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		That hasn't happened to me.