The final outcome is affected by the final 10%, you can even call it 1%, for which the semi-corrupt or "communistiquesque" countries never (seemingly) have the will or sheer talent for.

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bean469 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> "communistiquesque" countries never (seemingly) have the will or sheer talent for.

I don't have the data to back it up, but I think that there is actually the same amount of will and talent in China as in the West

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prussia 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Based on the population size and school system, I'd conjecture there's more... though there is brain drain and emigration to consider.

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immibis 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I'd rather be in China than the USA right now.

	▲	jimmaswell 4 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		Are you being facetious or are you ignorant of what it's actually like over there? https://reclaimthenet.org/china-man-chair-interrogation-soci... Or even worse, do you actually support their views on human rights?

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yanhangyhy 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

around 13 millons graduates each year and > 50% of them are STEM

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lm28469 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The level of cope... The US and the west in general is on a much more dire trajectory than China (which is facing its own demons, no doubt about that)

There is not much left of communism in China besides the name, it's more akin to a government steered economy, which arguably is very similar to what the west had when we moved at our peak speed, albeit more authoritarian. They still have what we mostly lost: a long term historical view of geopolitic.

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techas 4 hours ago | parent [-]

>There is not much left of communism in China besides the name,

After living 2 years in China and visiting the country every year for the last 12 years, I disagree with you.

Many not minor things in China are still very aligned with communism.

How the university system works, land property, production in unpopulated areas and small towns, participation of the government in industry, etc…

	▲	scilro 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		It's most accurate to say that China is still run by folks who are committed communists. These planners, by virtue of their decades of experience, understand the social value of markets and broad based technological growth, and want to wield those even better than liberal planners.
	▲	lm28469 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		Yeah but then again most people think "if it's not capitalism it's communism", there is a whole spectrum and China definitely does not belong in the communist part of the spectrum anymore. It's a mix of authoritarian socialism and state capitalism, you can add many other words to the mix but communism isn't at the top of it anymore New things deserve new definitions, we have to get out of the ww2 lingo where everyone is a nazi, a fascist, a communist or a capitalist, it's overly simplistic and muddies the water. 2025 China is completely different than 2000 China which itself is completely different than 1980 China.