| ▲ | Making Google Sans Flex(design.google) |
| 79 points by meetpateltech 8 hours ago | 56 comments |
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| ▲ | TekMol 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Since even after 2 hours nobody is discussing the actual font, let me tell you what comes to my mind when I read anything about Google and design: They got phone design right. I just can't get my head around it that even Apple, which is supposed to be THE design company, is making phones that can't lay on a table without wobbling like a barstool on a crooked floor. It just feels so broken to me. So detrimental to my sense of aesthetics. Google phones tackled it with an elegant solution. Thanks for that. I wouldn't know what phone to use if Pixels didn't exist. |
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| ▲ | the_gipsy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The irony is that you're still not discussing the font | |
| ▲ | jorvi an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'd rather have a wobbly phone (how often do you push on your screen when it is flat on the table?) and a proper OS than a proper phone and a wobbly OS. Gesture navigation on Android was introduced half a decade ago and it is still broken. In most apps my edge swipe to pull out a drawer or a swipe on the right side to 'forward' are still detected as back button swipes. Editing details at the edge of a photo often gets detected as a back button swipe. Ridiculous. | | |
| ▲ | Y-bar 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The wobbling is the worst part of the hardware on my iPhone mini, annoys me probably more than fifty times per week. Because I often unlock it when it is on the desk I also miss Touch ID a lot, because with Face ID I also have to lean forward every time for it to recognise me. |
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| ▲ | mft_ 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Apple probably has swathes of real-world usability data showing that virtually no-one uses their phone for prolonged periods of time while it's laying down on a hard flat surface. You may be right about the aesthetics (and Lord Jobs may well have agreed with you) but they may have made the tradeoff consciously. | |
| ▲ | mapt 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Some of these companies are now designing the phone on the assumption you're going to case it. No other reason to make a Pixel camera bump w/ scratch-vulnerable screen stick out so far. | |
| ▲ | vbezhenar 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Original iPhone got design right. I don't think there's a single modern smartphone that I like. My latest favourite smartphone was iPhone 4S. No camera bump. Perfect size, fits well in my hand, operable with one thumb. Perfect display size, enough to present all information I need. Perfectly usable without ugly case. | | |
| ▲ | makeitdouble 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Perfectly usable without ugly case. Why would you buy an ugly case and not a clean and well designed, functional one ? If you liked the original iPhone design, getting a rounded and hand fitting case would be the go too IMHO (on the size difference, there's no way out at this point) | | |
| ▲ | skydhash 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | My previous phone was the iphone 8. It’s trully a world of difference in usability compared to the iPhone 13 I’m using now. I have big hands, so I can ise the latter one-handed, but a lot of people I’ve seen don’t. | | |
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| ▲ | bpev 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | What bugs me most is that Apple DID do this (I still hold that iPhone SE 1 is the goat) and then decided to drop it because it wasn't as profitable. | |
| ▲ | sixtram 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've just got a new Samsung and it's wobbling too. I hate this. Why can't they at least put the cameras in the middle? Or maybe horizontally centred? Or they could just put another bumper on the other side to make it symmetrical. I'm looking for a cover to balance this out, but no luck so far. | | |
| ▲ | jules 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | iPhone 17 pro max is balanced with their standard case. |
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| ▲ | Kuraj 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've come to realize that barely anyone I know uses swipe typing anymore, and that this is why using it laying flat is viable in the first place | |
| ▲ | soanvig 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Too bad Pixel support for factory-broken screens sucks so my "well designed" Pixel has green vertical line in the middle of the screen. So detrimental to my sense of aesthetics. |
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| ▲ | the_gipsy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Cool work on a font, but this page is proof that google is turning the web into some kind of JSON for their app, Chrome. Extremely sluggish on non-Chrome. Starts with a black blank empty page. Fans spinning. Takes way too long to load for just some text and some videos. Clicking a link does some SPA magic that takes me to another black blank page, and takes ages to load. Clicking back doesn't work anymore. I need to reload the entire page, again blank and waiting. Once done loading, scrolling is extremely sluggish. Yes, there are probably some interactive widgets in there, but all that and much more has been done without bogging down the browser like you're running a 3D game on WebGL. Oh, and of course reader mode doesn't work. |
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| ▲ | grougnax 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Just use Chrome on a MacBook Pro M4 like everyone else | | |
| ▲ | chippiewill 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Use it on an Air and there aren't even fans to be spun up | |
| ▲ | makeitdouble 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This flashed back so many of these comments, I unconsciously reached for the downvote button. Well done sir. |
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| ▲ | FireInsight 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Huh. Firefox on a mid-range android phone had no issues. | | |
| ▲ | the_gipsy 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Works much better than desktop, but clicking back doesn't restore the scroll correctly, e.g. the link I clicked was hidden behind the header on return, disorienting. |
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| ▲ | guessmyname 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is there a monospaced version of this font? Pretty much every font I try has one or two things that bug me. I’ve spent the last ten years making my own, first in FontForge, now in Glyphs.app, but it’s incredibly time-consuming. I’ll work on it for a while, then give up for months, delete everything, switch to a different font, use it for a few days, start hating it… and end up back at making my own font again. This cycle repeats pretty much every year. You’ll probably want to recommend your favourite font, but trust me, I’ve tried all the well-known ones, and they all have their quirks. Edit: I’m going to try Guguru (“Google” pronounced with a Japanese accent) Sans Code for a few days → https://github.com/yuru7/guguru-sans-code , created by https://x.com/tawara_san |
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| ▲ | pityJuke 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | From TFA: > Google Sans Mono was created in 2020 to support contexts that needed fixed-width characters for editorial design, at medium and large text sizes. Despite this, it soon got its first big product integration, replacing Roboto Mono in Google Chat. The only problem? Developers hated it. [...] > Recognizing this critical need, a dedicated effort was launched to craft Google Sans Code, a monospaced typeface specifically designed to make code more readable. This involved thorough research into the 20 most common programming languages and how developers interact with code, aiming to make the new coding typeface more visually appealing while reducing the ambiguity of similar-looking letterforms. Based on these insights, Google tasked the Universal Thirst foundry to meticulously focus on specific letters, numbers, and operators to meet these requirements. The result is an eminently readable and surprisingly playful typeface. > Google Sans Code launched as an open-source font in 2025, and is the typeface used to display code in Gemini. | | |
| ▲ | jorvi an hour ago | parent [-] | | What is that abomination of a curly brace. It looks like a squiggle that someone had to jot down in a rush. https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Google+Sans+Code | | |
| ▲ | maaarghk 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Hmm, my first reaction was the same as yours. But I have quite bad eyesight and looking at the "regular 400 at 16px" example on the page reminded me that I definitely sometimes find myself squinting trying to work out whether a character is a parenthesis or a brace (Droid Sans Mono). So I suppose it'd probably be quite helpful to have a brace that's very visually distinct from parenthesis even if it's not particularly pretty on its own. | |
| ▲ | IAmBroom 9 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Oh, it can't be that ba.... OMG KILL IT WITH FIRE! WE HATES IT! --my actual reaction |
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| ▲ | Daneel_ an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I’m curious. What are the critical features you’re looking for? I always like to hear the specifics of how people want to use fonts. |
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| ▲ | stevage an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Took me so long to realise that "Google Sans Flex" is the name of the font. I read the title as "creating Google without using Flex [whatever that is]" |
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| ▲ | syldarion 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Like the other commenter, my mind also fixated on the mouse cursor. Great post on the fonts, but I spent most of my time seeing how the strange cursor behaved. I don't like it much, especially because there's some inconsistency once you're down hovering over the related posts. However, there was one spot where I had to give it to them: when I hovered over the content about Google Sans Code, it expanded horizontally. For a second, I wondered what was going on, then it clicked that the content must be horizontally scrollable, which it was! Of course, that could be shown with a much more obvious horizontal scroll bar... |
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| ▲ | lnx01 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It should not be possible for a webpage to change my mouse cursor. |
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| ▲ | philipwhiuk 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > It’s one of the most-served fonts on the internet, clocking in at some 120 billion font requests a month. Isn't this an incredible waste of bandwidth? Surely people only need the font once. |
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| ▲ | planb 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| A bit OT: What's up with the mouse pointer on that page? Why on earth would a site that has "design" in it's domain name change my mouse pointer to a finger-sized circle blob on my 4K desktop screen? |
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| ▲ | agos 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | it's part of the Material Design 3 branding, for some reason. The original thread for the launch of the design system [1] is full of people baffled by Google making a cursor that lags [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43975352 | | |
| ▲ | GaryBluto 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Look at all the rubes who can't understand that a lagging mouse cursor is an integral part of Google's Molasses-Forward Design Language Initiative. |
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| ▲ | reddalo 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah I wish there was a way to disable such a useless gimmick. | |
| ▲ | vbezhenar 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Cursor feels terrible. Native cursor moves very fast. This cursor does not feel native and moves very slow and sluggish. Do they paint it with Canvas or something like that? |
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| ▲ | jlengrand 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I never come to complain about websites, but clicking on this thing made my chrome freeze for a whole second on my MBP. What has Google become xD |
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| ▲ | grumbel 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why do new fonts still make "l" and "I" indistinguishable? |
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| ▲ | bluecalm an hour ago | parent [-] | | Utility is no longer a core design principle in Silicon Valley these days. |
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| ▲ | _fzslm 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's a really pretty, humanist font, and those tend to be my favourite fonts. I was never the biggest fan of the grotesk-style Roboto/Inter/Univers, especially in the context of a user interface, which should feel a little bit friendlier imo. I use Avenir on my Samsung phone, which is also pretty nice. I like Circular, Proxima Nova and Frutiger too, but they are all very expensive. This font is free, flexible and genuinely really nice to look at. It's a good day for font nerds like me. |
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| ▲ | elAhmo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I wish I had the luxury of spending probably dozens of millions on a meaningless effort like this. Any similar font like this one would do the trick, without the need to have a fancy series of blog posts trying to convince users this font is awesome. |
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| ▲ | clircle 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I find the whole “corporate blogging about fonts” subculture really funny |
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| ▲ | qbane 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| To declare "open source", you have to provide a way for the public to get access to the source code. But there seems to be none at least for the time being. |
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| ▲ | kace91 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There is something about the page that makes me dizzy on mobile. I’m not sure if it’s a subtle animation but I get the feeling of things moving/deforming while I read. |
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| ▲ | albert_e 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | >> Product lockups didn’t match the new Google logo
>> The 2015 logo redesign was a smashing success. Watch the distance between these two lines. It changes to more compact - subtly- as we scroll it into view (am on mobile- chrome on android). Feels like the page is trying to do too much fancy stuff. I cant take their blog seriously if this is their idea of good design and user experience. | | |
| ▲ | kace91 an hour ago | parent [-] | | Ugh, you’re right. It’s like a parallax for the titles. Not really a good impression. |
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| ▲ | duskdozer 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I have the same thing reading this page. It feels really similar to the overscroll stretch animation in Android (12?+) which makes me feel ill and unfortunately often doesn't respect animation settings. | |
| ▲ | Computer0 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It is present on desktop but it's much worse on mobile. I had the same experience |
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| ▲ | deafpolygon 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > The majority of how people experience the Google brand is through typography Ok, who wants to tell them? |
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| ▲ | andrewinardeer 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Where is this page's RSS feed? |
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| ▲ | bluecalm 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Other than changing my mouse cursor to a circle that just makes it unintuitive to use can someone explain the point of a circle in the right upper corner that expands automatically into two icons: search and a hamburger menu? The "saved" space is not used for anything anyway. Isn't it just a bad design that makes navigation harder for no reason? Clickable elements seem to be underlined with the exception of one: the Google Design logo in the left upper corner. It seems inconsistent and confusing. Are those new principles of designing things - making it more confusing and more difficult to find (and then click) for 0 gain? EDIT: also scrolling all the way down is difficult because random stuff block the page, gets loaded. There is "Privacy & Terms" link at the bottom that is impossible to reach because of it. The design is just terrible, wtf Google? |
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| ▲ | GaggiX 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I never saw the cursor changing size to fit the button you are hovering on, it's pretty cool, I don't know if it's better but it's cool. |
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| ▲ | orphea 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Looks cool. Feels horrible. I don't want my mouse cursor to morph into buttons or anything. I don't want it to be a lagging blob either. | |
| ▲ | meindnoch 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | iPadOS had it for about 5 years. |
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