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kqr 3 days ago

It sounds like our main disagreement lies around whether to call it "design error" or "build error" but I do not believe this erases the useful distinction between "error present in the thing from day one" and "unpredictable failure of component suddenly no longer doing what it used to do".

aidenn0 3 days ago | parent [-]

I think that's definitely part of it. I also believe that a physical component put under stresses it was not capable of bearing, even when those stresses were known to be within the expected environment at design time -- such as a bolt that was too weak for expected conditions -- is both:

1. Generally referred to as a "failure" of the part

2. Closely analogous to many software defects that cause system failure.

kqr 2 days ago | parent [-]

> Generally referred to

Sure, people may sloppily call it a failure, but then they miss out on a useful distinction which would help them create more robust software.

A bolt being under-engineered for its intended usage is a design error. When it breaks, that's a predictable (but unfortunate) mode of operation of the design, not a failure. (It has inadvertently been designed to act as a frangible link.)

The reason it's important to distinguish between the two cases is that we use different methods to deal with them.