The west is still underestimating China. There is a great anecdote, I think it's from the book 'Apple in China', about their engineers visiting a Chinese production plant. Some changes needed to be made to the place. The Apple people estimated that that would take two weeks.

They came back the next day. It was finished, the Chinese had done it overnight.

> The west is still underestimating China.

What do you mean by "The West"?

Because in Western Europe, nobody serious is underestimating China, quite the contrary. We know that there's no going back, and quality is no longer a criteria to choose local over imported.

Only bigotted people are still viewing China as a country mass-producing cheap crap.

I think that's the EVs that definitely sealed the deal in lots of people's minds.

I believe Tim Cook himself has said Apple is manufacturing in China not because of cheap labour, but because of good engineering.

It's ironic that a lot of western domestic manufacturing takes place using machines that were engineered and manufactured in China.

I recommend the HTX Studio YouTube channel. The things that they release on a regular basis would be year long engineering projects on other channels.

I often wonder what is it that's driving the Chinese to work themselves to death to get this stuff done? Surely there must be some limit. I guess we can see it in the low birth rates, the youth unemployment, and I guess the desire to just survive because there's just so many people there. But still, I just don't get how Chinese just keep going and going. What is their end goal on a person to person level? Are they just going to keep killing themselves for the rest of their lives? What happened to the lie flat movement?