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tptacek 16 hours ago

Just going to say here that people routinely engage pentest firms, several times annually, for roughly that sum of money, hoping but not expecting game-over vulnerabilities (and, from bitter experience as a buyer rather than a seller of those services over the last 5 years --- "no game-over vulnerabilities" is a very common outcome!)

wiether 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I completely agree!

But hiring a pentest firm is completely different than giving $50k a year to a guy, no questions asked.

The pentest firm is generally providing the whole package, from doing the actual pentest, with tools and workers of various experience and skill sets, giving you extended reports on what they did and the outcome, to providing guidance on how to fix their findings, how to make the necessary cultural changes to harden your apps, and also how to communicate that you have passed their audit.

You won't have all of that if you give free roam to a guy to _do what they do_.

This idea is more similar to patronage, which, imho, is a great idea, no matter the domain (arts or tech), but I doubt that there any company here that is willing to go this way.

Even the company that supposedly do actual patronage today are going to look at their ROI and stop as soon as they don't see the figures they're expecting.