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wslh 17 hours ago

They learn really fast. I will not take the past as a prediction of the future.

solid_fuel 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I took the previous comment as satire, considering that - for example - Chinese electric vehicles are now far more affordable than anything produced domestically in the US.

bilbo0s 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Just to give a hint of how we plan on dealing with this, how many of those cars can you buy in the US today?

You can expect to be able to buy exactly that many chinese GPU or neural processors.

solid_fuel 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You are 100% correct on that, I fully expect that importing cheap GPUs and NPUs will be banned in the US, or tariff'd so heavily that it doesn't matter should they become available. But that will just allow Nvidia to fall behind until they get surpassed like AMD passed Intel.

A move like that will seriously hurt our ability to train and raise new software developers and the domestic game market.

jamesknelson 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Importing might be banned until the US loses access to its main source of GPU manufacturing. And what are the US going to do about it? Defend Taiwan? With missiles made with components and materials processed where, pray tell?

The US does need to start protecting its manufacturing again, but it’d be lucky to start at a level as high as high end semiconductors. That’d be like a stroke victim trying to run before they re-learn to walk.

As others have pointed out, this means less services, more manufacturing, less consumption, a probably a lower standard of living. But with the business as usual alternative looking a lot like business as usual in the western Roman Empire circa 450 CE, taking a hit to your standard of living while investing in a future which you still have the slightest control over, maybe feels like a decent trade.

CuriouslyC 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Bringing a car in is hard. Bringing a GPU in is easy.

immibis 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The fact that we banned the better products out of spite doesn't mean they're not better products.

Imagine if in 2010 the USA had banned itself from using computer hardware more powerful than they had at the time. Where would they be in the AI race? That's the situation the USA is heading for.

Loughla 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

When it comes to China and its ability to quickly mass produce items while incrementally improving on them, I absolutely will view the past as an indicator of the future.

It's just what they do as a nation.