It's kind of nasty that a fresh society of capable people has the drive to achieve technological excellence and the incumbents do whatever they can to delay this, even though it's inevitable and there's a lot to gain by empowering them. All in the name of "they are not us".

World has gained so much from modern Chinese industrial revolution. Why suddenly everyone got cold feet? Nobody was stopping Germany or Japan on their way up even though they were literal former enemies with history of brutal warfare. China never done anything even comparable to others.

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acheong08 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Japan

Pretty sure the US pressured Japan to up their exchange rate which was one of the factors in their stagflation. Germany never threatened the power of the US

	▲	scotty79 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		So the US has always been terrible to the countries which growth they exploited?

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christophilus 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I mean, if we’re going to make that comparison, China today looks much more like pre-war Germany and Japan— set on expansion. That’s pretty clearly what the anti-China crowd is worried about. Tibet, Taiwan, Philippine islands, ever expanding naval bases, aggressive displays of power around Australia, prison camps and sterilization programs, and so forth.

	▲	scotty79 16 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		How does it compare to the last 50-70 years of US actions? Even if all narratives are true and significant, China could still massively benefit the world same way US did despite its vast shortcomings.
	▲	olalonde 14 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		China has never had expansionist ambitions. On the contrary, modern Chinese foreign policy is explicitly grounded in non-interventionism and respect for sovereignty (the Five Principles of Peaceful Coexistence). Xinjiang, Tibet and, per Beijing, Taiwan, are internal matters. The "Philippine islands" have been claimed by multiple states long before the PRC existed.

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Invictus0 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_Chin...

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		https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide
	▲	scotty79 9 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsory_sterilization_in_Ca... Give China 50 years and I'm sure they are gonna be properly sad about what happened to Uyghurs, western style. Or not. Measures applied to Uyghurs were done under the banner of fight with terror, which the West waved fervently as well. Although US decided to direct their zeal outside, bombing several countries and killing countless "enemies" which were defined as everybody within the blast radius. Were attempts of China at controlling their islamist minority so uncomparably worse? Especially when we compare them to how they approached the problem of pandemics. They obviously have no qualms about attempting sweeping solutions regardless of religion and ethnicity of those affected.