It’s easy to bash Mozilla because it is failing. Their usage share is a statistical error, and most of it comes from being shipped with Ubuntu. Firefox badly needs a value proposition beyond not being Chromium-based.

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ekr____ 20 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Their usage share is a statistical error, and most of it comes from being shipped with Ubuntu.

This is not true, and is easily verifiable for yourself.

https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/hardware

The vast majority of Firefox usage is on Windows.

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gldrk 20 hours ago | parent [-]

I am surprised. Does that imply most GNU/Linux users go out of their way to install Chromium actually? Ubuntu and Firefox have a similar market share.

	▲	homebrewer 19 hours ago \| parent [-]
		No idea about most Linux users, but here's what little we know for sure: Arch pkgstats (opt-in): ~64% FF, ~41% Chromium, ~17% Chrome https://pkgstats.archlinux.de/fun/Browsers/current Debian popcon (opt-in): 2.2% Firefox, ~10.3% Chromium https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=firefox https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=chromium Flathub installs: 10kk Firefox, 10kk Chrome, 1.8kk Chromium https://flathub.org/en/apps/org.mozilla.firefox https://flathub.org/en/apps/com.google.Chrome https://flathub.org/en/apps/org.chromium.Chromium snapcraft statistics isn't public, afaik.

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yoavm 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I agree, but there's nothing more frustrating than another niche user group imagining that the reason for this failure is Mozilla lacking to address their obscure requests, while Mozilla's real goal is to create a browser for everyone. The truth is that this goal is borderline impossible, and all these double standards (can't count the times I've heard "I'm tired of Firefox, moving to Chrome!") surely aren't helping.