It hurts my brain that people still parrot the fact that "Apple doesnt do ads". As you rightly point out, Ads for Apple is a multi-billion dollar business, bigger than many other ad networks, and ad exchanges.

The reality distortion field is strong, even with some HNers.

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ChrisMarshallNY 4 days ago | parent [-]

It's not that. Be as insulting as you wish, but this conversation shows that a significant number of folks simply can't understand any way to make money, except by harvesting and selling PiD.

Making and selling hardware is difficult. Really difficult, but some companies have been doing it successfully, throughout recorded history.

It's really strange to see it being dismissed as "impossible," nowadays.

	▲	bitpush 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		Here are the facts - Apple makes tons (read: billions of dollars) from ads. Hence, Apple is in the business of ads, have sales people working with advertisers to make targeting, personalization work. I take no side in "ads are bad" argument, but you have to accept that Apple is in the ads business, whether you like ads or not.