The job, in the modern world, is to close tickets. The code quality is negotiable, because the entire automated software process doesn't measure code quality, just statistics.

That's why I refuse to take part in it. But I'm an old-world craftsman by now, and I understand nobody wants to pay for working, well-thought-out code any more. They don't want a Chesterfield; they want plywood and glue.

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whattheheckheck 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

I woke up and had a thought the software engineering isn't a serious engineering field if they actually fully shipped llms and expect everyone to use them. What do you expect quality wise from a profession that says that this is okay?

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AlienRobot 4 days ago | parent [-]

Imagine if normal engineering did that. Engineers invent a "blobby" thing that glues things together. It has amazing properties that increase productivity but sometimes it just stops working for some reason and comes off. It's totally random and because of how blobby is produced there is no way to tell when it's going to work or not, contrary to the typical material. Anyway we're going to use blobby to build everything from schools, to bridges, to airplanes now.

	▲	redwall_hp 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		And, don't forget, software makes its way into airplanes a medical equipment and such, and has directly killed people. Therac and Boeing come to mind. I'm starting to be in favor of professional licensing for software engineering.

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gadflyinyoureye 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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JoeAltmaier 4 days ago | parent [-]

Retired

	▲	johnea 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		> Retired You and me both, and for many of the same reasons. I would point out that in your OPs comment, Luddites get the stereotypical dismissal as anti-tech, which is far far from the reality of demanding good conditions for workers. For the modern s/w engineer, being granted the time and resources for adequate testing could be considered a "worker's rights" issue. In that context the Luddite allegation could be accurate. My comment is largely along the same lines: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46313297#46319510