This idea that parents who let their kids play without 3 layers of bubble wrap and parental hovercraft mode don’t also talk with their kids and aren’t present is not just insulting, it’s far from true. Over coddling causes more problems than it prevents, it’s especially obvious when you compare the maturity levels, mental health situation and general early adulthood outcomes for non-Anglo kids in other developed nations.

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watwut 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

I like how contemporary parents are either overly involved or lazy having forgotten how to parent ... whatever is needed to blame them for the moment.

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dlisboa 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

There's just no discussion that modern parents are more personally involved in their kids development than parents in the 70s/80s. That's just a fact, not an insult.

I never said you can't raise kids without all the overprotection and also be present.

The issue of over parenting seems to be a developed nation issue, I agree. I'm not in one and here kids don't do mountains of activities, but violence rates are very significant. There's just no point exposing my son to it in the hopes he comes out the other side unscathed, when even I don't want to be out alone at night. That's "vibe parenting", not an intelligent way of raising children.

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quesera 4 days ago | parent | next [-]

You're making a different argument, throughout these threads.

The article is about the US. You say you are "not in [a developed nation like the US]", but instead somewhere that "violence rates are very significant".

That is just not the US. Headlines are scary, but the statistics don't support the fear. The worries you describe are absolutely irrational for 99+% of US parents.

I don't know where you are and I don't know the statistics for your area -- things might be worse there! But your comments sound like irrational US parent fears, without including that context.

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cpursley 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

No, it’s specifically an Anglo country phenomenon. It’s not really an issue in places like Denmark, France, Spain, Russia, China, Chile. There’s several books on the topic if you are open to recommendations.

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medvezhenok 4 days ago | parent [-]

I'm curious about book recommendations on this (as someone raising kids in the US but originally from Russia)

	▲	cpursley 4 days ago \| parent [-]
		Bringing Up Bebe, The Danish Way Of Parenting, The Coddling of the American Mind. These are pretty similar to Soviet style, but perhaps a bit less structured. We are basically raising our daughter Soviet-style to the extent that we can; so far so good. It's difficult in a culture where ADHD American style of child raising is prevalent.