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ChuckMcM 5 days ago

And this is always my question: "... because the genie, used well, accelerates learning." Does it though?

How are we defining "learning" here? The example I like to use is that a student who "learns" what a square root is, can calculate the square root of a number on a simple 4 function calculator (x, ÷, +, -) if iteratively. Whereas the student who "learns" that the √ key gives them the square root, is "stuck" when presented with a 4 function calculator. So did they 'learn' faster when the "genie" surfaced a key that gave them the answer? Or did they just become more dependent on the "genie" to do the work required of them?

pests 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Some random musings this reminded me of.

I graduated HS in mid 2000s and didn't start using a calculator for math classes until basically a junior in college. I would do every calculation by hand, on paper. I benefited from a great math teacher early on that taught me how to properly lay out my calculations and solutions on paper. I've had tests I've turned in where I spent more paper on a single question than others did on the entire test.

It really helped my understanding of numbers and how they interacted, and helped teachers/professors narrow down on my misunderstandings.

jacquesm 4 days ago | parent [-]

Not only that: I suspect you already have an inkling of the range of the expected outcomes for the answer in your head just looking through the problem and any answers that fail that test will cause you to pause to re-check your work.

This aspect is entirely missing when you use an oracle.

sailfast 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

You still need to be curious. I learn a ton by asking questions of the LLMs when I see new things. “Explain this to me - I get X but why did you do Y?”

It’s diamond age and a half - you just need to continue to be curious and perhaps slow your shipping speed sometimes to make sure you budget time for learning as well.

simonw 5 days ago | parent [-]

I think that's the "used well" in "because the genie, used well, accelerates learning".