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oersted 5 days ago

I was quite underwhelmed by the demo, I'll try to be as constructive as I can.

The core functionality I expect for such a service is for it to automatically detect who I am, I've seen other marketing services do this, there are ways to map IPs to companies and other techniques. Of course, it's rather creepy and not super helpful to the user, but it may have its (shock) value for making certain kinds of products stand out.

And the personalisation itself... Anyone can make a call to an AI + Search service and generate a new version of the HTML with some slightly modified text, which was not all that different, appealing or accurate in the tests I made. I would suggest upgrading to a higher quality model, proper AI can do much better than this if given the right context.

I suppose it's nice that you are making this easy, if you built your site with a visual website builder this wouldn't be completely trivial to replicate. But still, not a very defensible business for now. I suppose that with good marketing and a serious roadmap to beef this up it could be a viable idea.

sarreph 5 days ago | parent [-]

Appreciate the candid feedback!

The number one request we have is to integrate deanonymisation, so you’re right on the money there. That’s coming in the next couple of weeks or so…

Wrt the changes being text-based for now, we do actually have image and complex element and layout generation working, but have kept it as an experiment for pre-rendered pages until we are confident we can get it right in most cases. (Some early beta users used Kenobi to send out in some cases thousands of customised landing pages with imagery)

We‘re also starting our on demand product with text only precisely because we want to hear what people think we should be working on next as we are a super small team of three!

oersted 5 days ago | parent [-]

I do appreciate you taking the time to respond. I wish you luck.

I suppose I was frustrated due to a mismatch of expectations and the fact that I do things like this every day with AI, it feels rather trivial to me.

But I can see how it may appeal to a wider market. I remember coming across a couple websites that were doing this automatically pre-AI, simply detecting who I was and displaying it in some basic ways. And yeah it was a bit weird, but it sure stuck in my mind for a long time, and it was a data-broker type company anyways, it triggered the thought "well if it can do this with me, it must have good data about everyone".

And I can see the more general case for B2B to surface the right use-cases for the user and such. I've interacted with many people with a business profile that would certainly click a "just show me what I care about" button, hell many technical people would love it too just to remove all the whishy-washy hype language and just see what the thing does.

sarreph 5 days ago | parent [-]

Thank you!

> many people with a business profile that would certainly click a "just show me what I care about" button

You've encapsulated better than I did the kind of visitor segment we're building for right now.

> I do things like this every day with AI, it feels rather trivial to me.

I also agree with this sentiment. It's how I started ("surely it can't be hard to jiggle a page around now with LLMs") and it mostly worked! But the edge cases and heuristics are also proving to be a big chunk of the effort "iceberg" :D