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AndrewKemendo 15 hours ago

It just reinforces for me that addiction is a human problem not a problem with technology

I know dang basically works tirelessly to not change the format in order to not induce those addictive patterns

but yet here we all are

chistev 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's a website with the smartest people in the world. The level of conversations here are unrivaled in internet communities.

It's understandable to be addicted. Lol.

I visit this place multiple times a day.

phantasmish 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

99% of social science or political topics and 50% of technical topics here do not… read as smart, and you’d be much better off spending the same time reading the first chapter of a relevant 101-level college textbook.

seizethecheese 14 hours ago | parent [-]

It's entirely possible that this is the smartest place on the internet, but also often dumb. In fact, it seems likely. More of an indictment of the rest of the places on the internet.

squeefers 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> It's entirely possible that this is the smartest place on the internet,

i cant find the link, but there was a post about how to "be nice" and it was a revelation to a worrying amount of "geniuses" on here. bare in mind the sum total of the advice was "be nice, dont be rude"

seizethecheese 11 hours ago | parent [-]

1. niceness and genius are orthogonal

2. your characterization of the article sounds uncharitable

3. my point isn't exactly that this is necessarily the smartest place

ssdspoimdsjvv 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Intelligence has many dimensions.

the_af 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> It's entirely possible that this is the smartest place on the internet, but also often dumb. In fact, it seems likely. More of an indictment of the rest of the places on the internet.

Almost every (non-troll) online community that is relatively peaceful and has some semblance of moderation to remove flamewars thinks of itself as "the best community". Usually as compared to reddit, though if it's on reddit they will compare themselves to some other (hated) sub.

It's a fact of the internet. Every online community thinks of itself as the smartest, more thoughtful, more civilized. HN is no exception.

It goes without saying HN is not the smartest or more thoughtful online community. It's just... ok. Not the worst, not the best. Certainly NOT the place with the smartest people, though some smart people frequent it. As a regular, you can soon figure out HN's unspoken rules, blindspots, and areas where the group opinion is more likely to be accurate.

jrowen 11 hours ago | parent [-]

> It goes without saying HN is not the smartest or more thoughtful online community.

How does that go without saying? Name some others then, compare and contrast. As-is your argument is just posturing.

the_af 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> Name some others then, compare and contrast.

No need, because whether an online community is more thoughtful or smarter than another is very subjective. Almost by definition, HN is not it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and all that. Of course, by internet law, HN (or a subset of its members) considers itself to be the smartest, more thoughtful online community.

There are communities I like better, which are smarter and more thoughtful, but I've no desire to argue with you.

> As-is your argument is just posturing

Nah. Hard pass. Nice try though!

jrowen 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

I see you're downvoted, it wasn't me. I wasn't making any claim, you're making claims and disparaging remarks that you won't substantiate.

steve_adams_86 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> the smartest people in the world

But also, people like me. Be careful what you choose to believe on this website

fwip 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's really not 'the smartest people.' It's people interested in tech, and often in making-a-lot-of-money-in-tech. It does have a lot of people with significant industry experience, which is cool.

worksonmine 15 hours ago | parent [-]

> It's really not 'the smartest people.'

This was especially obvious during Covid, I even stopped visiting because the comment section was so crazy.

the_af 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> It's a website with the smartest people in the world.

Nice joke!

At least, I hope it was a joke...

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linhns 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also the level of flak is unrivaled.

krapp 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Any professional forum or technical subreddit with good moderation and gatekeeping blows Hacker News out of the water any day of the week.

andrepd 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Poe's Law for a parody of the self-important sv techbro

the_af 12 hours ago | parent [-]

It's a testament to Poe's Law that I genuinely cannot tell if the OP was being funny or not.

mrguyorama 11 hours ago | parent [-]

There's a reason why HN of all places has such a terrible record of handling actual sarcasm and telling it apart from genuine belief and that reason is NOT that "HN is really smart" lol

the_af 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Agreed! I think HN is average, and its userbase think themselves smarter than they really are.

... but I still cannot tell if the original commenter was sarcastic or not! ;)

dzink 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This one is at least healthy-ish for the mind. I’d much rather hacker news than any other news. Social Media is an emotional rage-bait cesspool these days. If it’s not for Hacker News those of us who abstain from the rest would be living in the dark.

PurpleRamen 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

But, would the addiction become worse if HN changed, or would there be a point where they could cure it?

ZuoCen_Liu 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Perhaps this is the role of HN - at least it still allows us to reflect.