Reading comments here about problems using Firefox is odd to me as I never run into them. I feel like people are taking about totally different browsers. I don't remember the last time I had page rendering issues or was asked to use a different browser.

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tokai 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Its the same kind of people that claim Linux is too unstable for them, and when you ask when they tried it they say 15 years ago.

	▲	mattmcal 5 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		I've been using Linux on my desktop for ten years and I definitely experience bugs and performance issues with Firefox from time to time that don't occur in Chrome. It's rare but common enough to keep Chrome around as a fallback. A few: Developer tools are quite slow; Airline websites often break during checkout; JS games and video players sometimes stutter or use a lot of CPU
	▲	stevenwliao 4 days ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		I last tried Ubuntu as a daily driver in 2009. How has Linux reliability improved for consumers since then?
	▲	glenstein 5 days ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		My favorite anecdote on this front: someone posted a comment on Lemmy, a fediverse alternative to Reddit, claiming Arch was "broken" and Linux users were delusional for thinking it was functional for the average person. And when people ask them what they meant, they revealed that they used some package from the arch user repository that apparently required manual compiling for every update. And instead of thinking that this wasn't the unusual behavior of a particular package, they insisted that this was the normal Linux packaging experience, which was why Linux as a whole was a terrible operating system. A bunch of commenters chimed in emphasizing that the whole package distribution system in Linux is designed to among other things, handle dependencies and avoid manual compiling (though it's available as an option), and they were all dismissed as just being fanboy apologists.

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glenstein 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Same. I mean, I'm sure there have been cases where I've switched to Chrome for certain things. I just got a custom viewfinder for my partner for Christmas, is showing a bunch of photos of the cruise that we went on. And they have an online editor for it, but the editor seemed to be glitching when using Firefox. So I moved to Chrome. Later I realized I was just misunderstanding and it actually just worked fine in Firefox.

And I'm able to access my bank, my credit cards, my utility bills, in Firefox without issue. So I'm not sure what people are talking about.

One thing I am familiar with though in the aftermath of gamergate was a bunch of motivated reasoning to complain about games and insist that they had design flaws or bugs, when really? The bugs weren't real but were kind of just a different way of saying We Don't Like This Game. And so reports of perceived bugs in some cases are as much a social phenomenon as they are a sincere representation of software functionality.

I don't want to say there's no bugs but for every one person's unsubstantiated anecdote, I seem to be able to find two people able to reproduce a functional version of the experience without issue. And just to zoom in on the bank login issue in particular, I use a credit union with an old decrepit HTTP site that was recently updated to a slightly less old and decrepit HTTP site. Plaid is unable to successfully log in, but the web interface works perfectly fine on Firefox mobile.

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2b3a51 5 days ago | parent [-]

Most of the service sites I use are fine in Firefox running on Linux. The only thing I use that is problematic is the Microsoft 365 with Teams portal an employer uses. So I have Chromium just for that one.

	▲	seanhunter 5 days ago \| parent [-]
		Teams is straight up broken on web and in its native client. Not sure it’s fair to blame firefox for that.

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stephen_g 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, I wonder if the rise of the Web Platform Tests have made browser behaviour much more consistent?

It happens so rarely, I don’t keep Chrome installed and have to download a new version of Ungoogled Chromium when I need to see if something only works in Chrome, which I can only remember doing about twice in the last year!

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bityard 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's not page rendering issues, usually, since Firefox and Chrome pretty much support all the same things.

What you run into the most is the website saying, hey, it looks like you are not using a browser we have tested against, so we are not going to let you log in. Please come back when you have Chrome, edge, or Safari.

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ffuxlpff 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Never had this problem - so far - on Linux. Maybe it has something to do with using a sucker operating systems.