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aydyn 5 days ago

lots of people seem to trust apple

vaylian 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

Marketing can do a lot to create trust.

It's not all or nothing. Depending on your threat model, Apple's services might be fine. But I guess most people don't think enough about the implications of storing many years worth of data at a US company like Apple.

philipallstar 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Apple has actually proven itself over a long period of time on this issue. Maybe Mozilla has as well (do they encrypt telemetry logs etc for people with a Mozilla login?) but I haven't heard so much about that.

fsflover 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

https://sneak.berlin/20231005/apple-operating-system-surveil...

sneak 5 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wrong. Apple explicitly preserves a backdoor in the e2ee of iMessage for the USG.

tfehring 5 days ago | parent [-]

Source?

sneak 4 days ago | parent [-]

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/exclusive-apple-droppe...

rurban 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Did you really forgot about Snowden's Apple slide? Also their phones are routinely mirrored at the border. Just to support the unconstitutional government agenda of policing thoughts and speech.

JumpCrisscross 5 days ago | parent [-]

> Did you really forgot about Snowden's Apple slide?

Was Apple coöperating or were they hacked? (I remember the smiley face for Gmail. Google, in that case, was hacked.)

Tepix 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes but Apple is also avoiding collecting a huge amount of data, e.g. by doing things on-device.

fsflover 5 days ago | parent | next [-]

https://appleinsider.com/articles/24/04/10/apple-makes-it-re...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43047952

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42014588

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34299433

reactordev 5 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Ok, keep telling yourself that as you can’t remove iCloud…