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keybored 6 days ago

> edit: I really, really like Rust, and I find it annoying that the clearest, most respectful arguments in this little subthread are from the people who just don't like Rust.

Keywords right there. People who don’t-like-Rust are the most coddled anti-PL group. To the extent that they can just say: I really need to speak my mind here that I just don’t like it. End of story.

I don’t think anyone else feels entitled to complain about exactly nothing. I complain about languages. In the appropriate context. When it is relevant or germane to the topic.

A “genius” Rust program running on a supercomputer solving cancer would either get a golf-clap (“I don’t like Rust, but”) or cries that this means that the contagion is irreversibly spreading to their local supercomputer cluster.

One thing is people who work on projects where they would have to be burdened by at least (even if they don’t write it themselves) building Rust. That’s practical complaining, if that makes sense. Here people are whining about it entrenching itself in muh OSS.

throwaway17_17 6 days ago | parent [-]

As I think I conveyed in my original post, I am not against anyone using whatever language they want to make their software. If a "genius" Rust program 'solved' cancer I would be exceptionally impressed by the PROGRAMMER's work, the language they used would not make a difference. Although I would be more excited to get the source code for the program if it was in a language I already knew and used routinely. My objection is to Rust being imported into software that I already use and is not currently written in Rust, and that is a very different thing.

keybored a day ago | parent [-]

> As I think I conveyed in my original post, I am not against anyone using whatever language they want to make their software.

You conveyed that? How?

Really, what neat little delineation is there between your little OS hack-on world and people using whatever language they want to make their software? There isn’t. Because people on a long-running project can have members who want to move code over or start modules in Rust or whatever language. As is happening in some places.

Beyond that though the projects that one is interested in would need to remain static and not include potentially new projects written in upcoming languages.

Against that backdrop we have you, moaning about lang X potentially infecting your OSS ecocsystem.

keybored 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

I have now read your other replies from about four days ago. They go into substantive reasons like the licensing of LLVM. So I have no complaints about those.