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baggachipz 6 days ago

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. Orion has matured as a browser and just hit 1.0. It's mac- and ios-only for now, but linux and windows ports are in the works. It has ad-blocking out of the box and has zero telemetry. I use it every day.

bigyabai 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

My two cents - I'm not doing the "proprietary browser" shtick again. Unless I have real assurance that the software isn't going to become a $50/month SaaS, why should I leave my perfectly good current browser?

I get the feeling this kind of product will only appeal to unconscious iOS and macOS users. Windows and Linux users have much better (and freer) options than a WebKit wrapper.

rdm_blackhole 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But Orion has the exact same issue that we are facing now with Chrome and Edge and Firefox. Orion is funded by Kagi, so it's a money losing venture. If Kagi folds tomorrow, who will pick the pieces and continue its' development?

Replace Orion with Chrome and Kagi with Google and you will find that we are in the same exact boat. Browsers cost money to maintain. Money has to come from somewhere. If the general public does not want to pay then who does?

Furthermore, what makes you think that Kagi will not one day do the same exact thing that Google has done with Chrome? Are you willing to bet that it won't happen?

And I am not here to bash on Kagi, I am one of their customers but I will not use Orion for the same reason I don't use Chrome.

baggachipz 6 days ago | parent [-]

If Kagi goes tits-up, you could switch to another browser. I don't see how this is a permanent decision.

worik 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Not sure why you're getting downvoted

Orion browser is proprietary

That would be my guess.

That might be OK for you, but I have been burnt, as have many others, by proprietary software

If there is a choice, I make it