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DoctorOW 6 days ago

Queer people aren't causes, they're people. Imagine I worked on the Brave browser, and in my personal time maintained a website aimed at discouraging personal relationships with him. This would probably make me difficult to work with, despite my personal views not impacting the quality of my work. You might say these examples aren't one-to-one, and you're right. My example doesn't actually push any legislation forbidding him from having a relationship with a consenting person, and it costs a hell of a lot less than $1000.

losvedir 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

I dunno. Public Defenders (and defense attorneys in general, but PDs don't get oodles of cash) have to work with some pretty reprehensible people sometimes.

I used to live in Bahrain while my wife worked in oil and gas, and a lot of her colleagues had some... pretty different... views from us but we still got along. Hell, the country itself has a pretty significant Sunni / Shia divide, with employees being one or the other and they managed to work with each other just fine.

I think in general people should be able to work with others that they have significant differences in opinion with. Now, in tech, we've been privileged to be in a seller's (of labor) market, where we can exercise some selectivity in where we work, so it's certainly a headwind in hiring if the CEO is undesirable (for whatever reason), but plenty of people still will for the cause or the pay or whatever. You just have to balance whether the hiring problems the CEO may or may not cause are worth whatever else they bring to the table.

phyzome 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

That's kind of the point of PDs, though. There's nothing similar in the corporate context.

driverdan 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Public Defenders (and defense attorneys in general, but PDs don't get oodles of cash) have to work with some pretty reprehensible people sometimes.

That doesn't mean they believe in the awful things their clients do.

lelanthran 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

That's the point. You don't need an alignment of beliefs to work together.

losvedir 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

That's exactly my point. They are able to do their job despite not believing in their clients, which for public defenders even means trying to let their clients go free, which is a fair bit further than is asked of a tech employee who disagrees with their CEO.

halfmatthalfcat 6 days ago | parent [-]

Public Defenders do not have a choice at who they defend.

kbelder 6 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you were on a hiring committee, and your otherwise-qualified-candidate had a political opinion you objected to in this way, perhaps with a similar donation, would you refuse to hire them?

madeofpalk 6 days ago | parent | next [-]

Depends what you mean by “political opinion”.

If it’s about government fiscal policy, probably not. If it’s more along the lines of discriminating against or undermining people’s rights, then yeah I would refuse to hire them.

account42 4 days ago | parent [-]

Perhaps we need stronger laws against discrimination then.

amrocha 6 days ago | parent | prev [-]

If you were about to hire a candidate and then found out that they donate regularly to the “Arrest kbelder and deport them to El Salvador” fund, would you hire them?

kbelder 6 days ago | parent [-]

Is that a no?

amrocha 6 days ago | parent [-]

It’s easy to claim neutrality when it’s other people being oppressed

kbelder 6 days ago | parent [-]

Ok. I actually think you ought to be able to refuse to hire somebody you disagree with like that. I think you would be very wrong in doing so, though.

amrocha 5 days ago | parent [-]

Would it be wrong to refuse to hire a neonazi? What kind of people do you think your organization will attract if you start hiring neonazis?

account42 4 days ago | parent [-]

Ones that are sane enough not to bring culture war drama to the office.

amrocha 4 days ago | parent [-]

I guess “kill all jews” is culture war drama now

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account42 4 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Marriages aren't people. And you probably unknowingly depend on a lot of people that despise many things you consider part of your identity. Touch grass and let people have opinions different from your own.