They only hinder the process if you treat them as demands instead of questions or comments. The questions are generally smart and thoughtful, just often mistimed/misplaced for where most companies decide to have the RFC process (i.e. often after completion rather than before starting main implementation).

It's alright to answer "No, we haven't done estimations for cloud-agnostic architecture as part of this project since it was not part of the approved goals and requirements. If we decide to go multi-cloud at some point in the future, this architecture will need to be reviewed with the rest of the infrastructure as part of the migration plan".

If that kind of answer creates a problem then the issue wasn't really to do with the RFC or the comments, that's just where the other issues in the process became apparent. Namely, the requirements are being set without all relevant stakeholders involved or even aware (which is not the same thing as agreeing).

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JamesSwift 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Agree 100%. I dont see how this is any different than PR review. There is nothing wrong with "no, thats out of scope for now". If the argument is that this answer causes problems, then yes thats an organizational issue. But fundamentally, those kinds of questions are exactly what you should hope to get out of this process by looping in others. A higher level and greater diversity of perspectives.

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foobarian 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I find that it's common for small groups to find themselves in a self-reinforcing purity spiral where they are afraid to say "No" to such comments, and they have no role model to get them out of the bad local minimum.

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phpnode 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The main difference with PR review is that code is tangible and real and carries more weight than a document full of plans and ideas. There is a broader acknowledgement of the cost of changing working code, but that price-sensitivity seems to evaporate when it comes to RFCs.

	▲	JamesSwift 9 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Again, I think you are assigning too much importance to comments/questions in the RFC. Yes, there is probably an expectation that a comment/question is _acknowledged_, but I disagree there should be an expectation that it is _resolved_. The same as a PR. If in a PR I left the comment that 'This architecture binds us to AWS. Have we estimated the engineering effort to remain cloud-agnostic in case we need to move to Azure next year?", it would be bad form for you to ignore the question and merge. It would be totally acceptable to either say "no, I didnt take that into account and I think its out of scope" or "yes, and that will be tackled separately". And it should always come with a consideration that there might need to be more information added to the PR, eg adding clarifying comments to the code.
	▲	bccdee 7 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		If you're making a proposal, I feel like an RFC carries a lot more weight than a slideshow or an email. If you really don't need feedback or approval from anyone, sure, go it alone. But if you do need or want to run it past someone, let the document you send them reflect the amount of thought you've put into it, and then maybe they'll hesitate before going off half-cocked & suggesting some idea you already considered.