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account42 17 hours ago

Germany does help them, it just requires they either apply for work or prove that they are unfit for work. Not the most pleasant thing to do, sure, but no German is forced to beg on the streets.

zwnow 16 hours ago | parent [-]

> no German is forced to beg on the streets.

This is such an uneducated and entitled comment just showing how little regular people know about this situation in Germany. Its also one of the most commonly used arguments on this topic and its simply not true. Homeless shelters are overcrowded and extremely unhygienic. Our infrastructure isn't made for an ever-growing amount of homeless people. Law, rights and reality sadly grow appart heavily. "Die Tafel" is completely overwhelmed too. This statement might have been true 15 years ago but you should re-educate yourself on the topic.

jack_tripper 16 hours ago | parent [-]

> Homeless shelters are overcrowded and extremely unhygienic.

It's not just the hygiene. it's that in those shelters you're constantly surrounded by a few mentally ill and possibly violent people who will lash out in unpredictable ways and make life worse for everyone with their constant tics and noises making you live in constant anxiety.

If you're homeless but not mentally ill yet, then being in such an environment everyday will definitely negatively affect your sanity as your daily struggle becomes surviving the shelter, instead of working to getting back on your feet. Kind of like being locked up in a prison but from which you can leave.

So then no wonder a lot of homeless people feel safer and less stressed just living and sleeping in public areas than in shelters.

trollbridge 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Where I live our homeless shelters are hygienic and not overcrowded (they will not go over capacity, ever, due to health code / liability reasons).

They are usually not full either. However they have a strict no drugs, no alcohol, and no fighting policy. That means a lot of people aren’t interested in going to them.