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nickpp 17 hours ago

Capitalism is the reason those treatments exist in the first place. I don't see many cutting-edge cancer treatments coming out of Cuba, North Korea or Venezuela.

hermanzegerman 17 hours ago | parent [-]

Those cutting edge cancer treatments come usually out of universities from publicly funded research.

But don't worry your free market friends are killing it right now, for tax reductions

https://www.wired.com/story/how-trump-killed-cancer-research...

nickpp 17 hours ago | parent [-]

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hermanzegerman 17 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Obviously you need a strong and prosperous economy. But like you noticed yourself you also need to tax it, to deliver benefits to your population

nickpp 11 hours ago | parent [-]

> you also need to tax it, to deliver benefits to your population

The benefits were already delivered by that strong and prosperous economy in form of products and services.

Taxation is of course necessary to fund government spending but we need to keep in mind its drawbacks: from discouraging productive activity and slowing economic growth to giving politicians funds to buy votes with populist social policies.

orwin 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Strong and prosperous economy built by progressive tax rate that used to tax up to 70% of non-work income, and now tax most of it 27-29% (depending on the corporate taxe of the state). The people who can use loopholes to avoid income taxes also pay reduced consumption tax (they usually pay the 'Use tax' rather than sale tax in the US, and can basically ignore VAT in Europe).

KingMob 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Americans really gloss over that the 50s was a high-water mark for both the economy and tax rates.

simonh 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Sure, capitalism isn't perfect. No economic system is, mainly because they're all composed of us semi-evolved chimps. Every economic system has that problem. Getting rid of or severely constraining economic freedoms isn't a solution, it makes it worse.

beepbooptheory 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Ok but if its taken you just three comments to get to "well... nothing is perfect I guess" where did that initial conviction come from?? Like why even play out this same argument if your heart isn't even in it? Is it a sense of obligation? If anything, you do your entire position a disservice by folding so quickly. It just goes to show noone deep down even believes these stories anymore, even we expect others to.

Like, yes, we are discussing an "imperfection" here! You are the one that asserting the greater perfection, not the lesser.

Hikikomori 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And Trumps economy is doing well?

catlikesshrimp 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, his personal economy is prosperous. Oh, the other one? /s

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/article/the-defini...

Most of his added wealth comes from "crypto" and name licensing.