Those are completely separate. "Live Plus" is a TV setting that has nothing to do with Copilot and has been on their TVs for a long time.

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baby_souffle a day ago | parent | next [-]

> has been on their TVs for a long time.

It's not just LG! They keep trying to shove "a return channel" into the latest ATSC standards for DRM and "enhanced / more accurate ratings".

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112233 a day ago | parent [-]

How do I check the TV in store does not have modem with esim? Or at least detect and disable embedded cell modems at home?

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lxgr a day ago | parent | next [-]

Bluetooth is enough, theoretically, if they have an agreement with Amazon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Sidewalk

And most TVs these days have Bluetooth.

ATSC 3.0 also specifies a dedicated long-range return channel with a range of many kilometers.

	▲	112233 a day ago \| parent [-]
		I wanted to write comment to the effect of "I don't have amazon devices hur hur", but then realized it does not have to be my device... Especially in an apartment building... What next, ultrasound? IR?

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iguessthislldo a day ago | parent | prev [-]

The average person willingly connects them to their wifi, why would TV makers go through the effort and expense? Maybe I'm being too optimistic though...

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rockskon a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And how long is a "long time", Mr. "It's old and boring that TV manufacturers do this so there's no point in being angry or complaining"?

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lxgr a day ago | parent [-]

Of course you can be angry at whoever you want, but it seems more productive to be angry at the entity actually causing the thing you dislike.

	▲	rockskon 19 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Being angry at the person playing interference for the TV manufacturers seems relevant in that regard.

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Angostura a day ago | parent | prev [-]

At least since 2010. Turned off as soon as I bought mine.