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whimsicalism 2 days ago

What Israel is doing is wrong, but the notion of ‘intentionally cultivating enemies’ seems pretty obviously ahistorical.

xorcist 2 days ago | parent [-]

It might be a reference to Netanyahu and other high ranking people of Likud who has supported of Hamas for decades, both directly and indirectly via Qatar. It is uncontroversial and there is even a well researched Wikipedia article, but for obvious reasons only include what has happened in the open.

Not taking part of Israel's politics, it was a bit surprising that this hasn't been more controversial but politics in the entire region is complicated, I guess. After all, the corruption in the prime minister's office did cause protests when it was exposed so clearly people care.

stevenhuang a day ago | parent | next [-]

I agree the situation is very complicated. From what I read, the support for Hamas was in the form of peace payments, which have backfired.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-q...

j_maffe a day ago | parent [-]

No, it's to futher divide up the palestinians. Netenyahu himself has said so.

stevenhuang a day ago | parent [-]

Yes, that's a big part of it too. Quite a mess.

bsaul 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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j_maffe a day ago | parent | next [-]

This is just some combination of a strawman and ad hominum. I'm sure you can come up with a better argument than that.

the_af a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is not true.

There are plenty of people horrified with both Israel and Hamas, and that while sympathizing with the plight of the Palestinians, think Hamas is hurting their chances of a peaceful solution.

Many people think Israel's right-wing and Hamas need each other, a kind of symbiosis. (Netanyahu certainly needs Hamas to exist).

Of course, the Israeli right wing wants to paint any opposition as pro Hamas anti semites. It's a time tested tactic.

matsemann a day ago | parent | prev [-]

No, virtually no one is supporting Hamas. Stop parroting that. Please allow me to be against genocide without accusing me of supporting a terrorist regime. It's dishonest. Thanks.