> On a vaguely related note, driving 3000 kilometers through Europe in an electric car was surprisingly nice.

Having done a number of multiple-thousand km trips in Europe in an EV (not a Tesla, nobody buys those anymore) — it's amusing how non-EV muggles think this is somehow an ordeal. It's just fine! There are drawbacks: you do have to use your brain and plan ahead more than you do when burning dinosaurs. But I found that the 20-30 minute stops every 2h really improve how I feel after a day or two of driving.

Agreed about prices: there is gouging going on with some crazy margins. When charging at home, an EV is 2-4x less expensive per km than a gasoline-powered car, but when fast-charging on a road trip the cost of energy is nearly the same.

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zamalek a day ago | parent | next [-]

> But I found that the 20-30 minute stops every 2h really improve how I feel after a day or two of driving.

I honestly started considering this a feature. I am a huge believer in "productive friction" - where some things are intentionally made annoying or hard so that humans avoid them - and this is a really good example.

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tacker2000 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What is a non EV-muggle?

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jwr 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Muggles, in Harry Potter books, are non-magic people, who do not have magic, do not understand it, have a lot of misconceptions about it, and fear it. :-)

	▲	tacker2000 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		So you are the enlightened one because you drive an EV or what? I dont think that this divisive and patronizing attitude is helpful in this discussion. Range anxiety is a fact, only recently electric vehicles have started to have more acceptable and practicable ranges and also, the charger network is evolving more and more. In winter the ranges are also reduced by about 10-20%. So I dont think people cant see the "magic", the mass market is just risk averse and doesnt want to get stuck in the middle of the highway with 2 screaming kids in the back seat. Also now that most European countries (and also the US) have stopped subsidizing EVs, the real costs are shining through, so maybe that 1.9L Diesel engine looks more attractive now again.

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71bw 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Stray anywhere off the main roads and suddenly your 'just fine' turns back into an ordeal.

And God forbid you come across inclines!

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dzhiurgis 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> draws swastikas to emphasize anti-fascism

> breaks windows

> sets cars on fires

>> nobody buys those anymore

surprised pikachu

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SoftTalker a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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jwr a day ago | parent | next [-]

No need to get agitated. Some people enjoy sitting in the car for multiple hours, some people don't. I found it changed for me as I got older.

However, about those 20 minutes — this, again, is a misconception. Stop at a busy rest area or a gas station and actually start your stopwatch. If you are a single male, it might take you shorter. If you are with a family, 20 minutes is pretty much the minimum.

	▲	DANmode 21 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Really depends on the air quality inside (and indeed outside) the car.

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namibj a day ago | parent | prev [-]

As a citizen I wish cars had similar driving break requirements as trucks do: mandatory 30 minutes break after 4.5 hours, 9-ish hours per day, minimum 9~11 ish hours break between driving days.

Such minimum reasonable rest is what keeps you from killing innocents with your 2-ton weapon/tool.