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mariusor 14 hours ago

Metal music offers a sort of catharsis for people that can't scream into the void, but feel a need to. It's not about manifesting violence, but containing it and directing it into a creative outlet.

npodbielski 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Exactly. you can't shout to your teachers and parents 'Fuck you! I won't do what you tell me' but you can in the concert. :)

ErroneousBosh 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

My small son loves listening to Rage Against The Machine, having heard Guerilla Radio as the intro music to Tony Hawk's Pro Skater, and always wants it on when we're driving round to granny's house about 25 minutes away.

Spotify plays the same sequence every time, Guerilla Radio first, then Bombtrack, then Bulls on Parade, then Take the Power Back, all of which are the radio edits.

Then Killing in the Name, which is most definitely not the radio edit, but by judicious use of the little pedal and if we don't get stuck behind a tractor too long, we're just pulling up outside and switching off the ignition at juuuuuust the right moment.

Once he's bigger he'd better be sneaking the full version behind my back on headphones when he thinks I don't know. It's nothing he doesn't hear - and worse - from the bigger kids at school.

npodbielski 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I understand and I am happy that you guys enjoy things together! I was not trying to say that children was not meant to listem to rock or metal. I was just trying to say that it is a way to rebel for teens or young adults. The problem I am a bit afraid of a way my kids will be rebelling with against me, it won't be heavy metal because I am listening to heavy metal. Maybe it will be some pycho-folk-new-wave-electric-r&b or some other silly shit like that ;)

reactordev 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Punk rockers would disagree and tell you, “Yes, yes you can.”

krapp 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The problem with catharsis, though, is it can often be mistaken for praxis.

Heavy metal, RATM and the like are just more means of capitalist consumption. They might make you feel like a rebel, but you aren't actually rebelling against anything. In some ways I think the commodification of counterculture has resulted in the neutering of activism in the West, people want to listen to the media and spread the memes but no one but the Nazi scum ever wants to follow through in any way that matters.

IDK, maybe I'm just cynical but once you hear this stuff being played in establishment spaces you start to view it all as a sick joke.

harvey9 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In the words of the great warrior poet Sandi Thom:

When the head of state didn't play guitar,

Not everybody drove a car,

When music really mattered and when radio was king,

When accountants didn't have control

And the media couldn't buy your soul

And computers were still scary and we didn't know everything

dvlsg 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's plenty of smaller metal and hardcore bands with a DIY and community first mentality that often barely break even to travel and play shows.

mariusor 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I avoided speaking before, but RATM is not what I associate with metal music.

I didn't want to gatekeep what others view it as, but "trve" metal music is still made in basements and garages by people with that are as far from capitalist consumption as you can get. Look at Encyclopedia Metallum, there are tens of new releases every day, and most of them barely get listeners - even when released on free/public places like Bandcamp. You can't reduce an entire subculture to its mainstream offshoots.