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AndrewKemendo 10 hours ago

The computer form factor hasn’t changed since the mainframe: look into a screen for where to give input, select visual icons via a pointer, type text via keyboard into a text entry box, hit an action button, recieve result, repeat

it’s just all gotten miniaturized

Humans have outright rejected all other possible computer form factors presented to them to date including:

Purely NLP with no screen

head worn augmented reality

contact lenses,

head worn virtual reality

implanted touch sensors

etc…

Every other possible form factor gets shit on, on this website and in every other technology newspaper.

This is despite almost a century of a attempts at doing all those and making zero progress in sustained consumer penetration.

Had people liked those form factors they would’ve been invested in them early on, such that they would develop the same way the laptops and iPads and iPhones and desktops have evolved.

However nobody’s even interested at any type of scale in the early days of AR for example.

I have a litany of augmented and virtual reality devices scattered around my home and work that are incredibly compelling technology - but are totally seen as straight up dogshit from the consumer perspective.

Like everything it’s not a machine problem, it’s a human people in society problem

nkrisc 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Purely NLP with no screen

Cumbersome and slow with horrible failure recovery. Great if it works, huge pain in the ass if it doesn't. Useless for any visual task.

> head worn augmented reality

Completely useless if what you're doing doesn't involve "augmenting reality" (editing a text document), which probably describes most tasks that the average person is using a computer for.

> contact lenses

Effectively impossible to use for some portion of the population.

> head worn virtual reality

Completely isolates you from your surroundings (most people don't like that) and difficult to use for people who wear glasses. Nevermind that currently they're heavy, expensive, and not particularly portable.

> implanted sensors

That's going to be a very hard sell for the vast majority of people. Also pretty useless for what most people want to do with computers.

The reason these different form factors haven't caught on is because they're pretty shit right now and not even useful to most people.

The standard desktop environment isn't perfect, but it's good and versatile enough for what most people need to do with a computer.

AndrewKemendo 10 hours ago | parent [-]

And most computers were entirely shit in the 1950s

yet here we are today

You must’ve missed the point: people invested in desktop computers when they were shitty vacuum tubes that blow up.

That still hasn’t happened for any other user experience or interface.

> it's good and versatile enough for what most people need to do with a computer

Exactly correct! Like I said it’s a limitation of the human society, the capabilities and expectations of regular people are so low and diffuse that there is not enough collective intelligence to manage a complex interface that would measurably improve your abilities.

Said another way, it’s the same as if a baby could never “graduate” from Duplo blocks to Lego because lego blocks are too complicated

mcswell 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Since mainframes, you say. Well, sonny, when I first learned programming on a mainframe, we had punch cards and fan-fold printouts. Nothing beats that, eh?

immibis 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Phone UIs are still screen UIs, but they are not desktop UIs, and that's not because of the shape of the device.

AndrewKemendo 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Tell me how that’s not a phone and a desktop:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPtvpkSExfA/

albumen 8 hours ago | parent [-]

That's not a phone and a desktop. I feel like I'm stating the obvious here; it's too big to be a phone, for any reasonable definition of 'phone'.

AnimalMuppet 10 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I do not see laptop computers as the same form factor as mainframes. At. All.

Even more, I don't see phones as the same form factor as mainframes.