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hermitcrab 11 hours ago

In the UK we used to have a nationalized rail system. People were always rude about the late trains, stale sandwiches etc. But I once managed to leave a bag Xmas present on a train. I only realized when I got another train. They were so helpful, they managed to find the bag and have it sent on to me. I think we lost a lot of that good will when the UK rail system was privatised. And the privatised trains were still late, but much more expensive.

HexPhantom 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think this really nails something people struggle to put into words: it wasn't that the system was perfect, it was that it felt human

hermitcrab 11 hours ago | parent [-]

I think making system more efficient often squeezes the kindness (and resilience) out of them. I have spoken to NHS workers who said that they used to do various unpaid overtime but, now they had opppressive management, didn't any more. Obviously things need a level of effiency, but there is a point beyond which it becomes counterproductive.

circuit10 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've left my bag with my laptop in a station a year or two ago and went to lost property and they called me when they found it and I got in back in a day or so, I guess if they have a specific lost property office that's kind of their job but it's nice that no one tried to steal it or anything

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hexbin010 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I agree. The railway now is mean, willing to prosecute, unhelpful and expensive

I've read various accounts of people trying to reclaim lost baggage and it's a Kafkaesque process designed to be totally useless

But the railway operators are 50% nationalised now. Northern, TransPennine, South West Railway, LNER, Greater Anglia, c2c, ScotRail, Southeastern, TfW are all government owned.

And the forerunner in increasing fares the last couple of years has been...the government. They renationalised various operators during and after COVID and are now busy decreasing rail subsidies and increasing fares.

(yes even with the freezing of some fares in April. It's only some fares. And prices had been going up multiple times a year in many places for a few years. There is a wider picture and other schemes happening pushing up prices)

Maybe Great British Rail will slowly and surely return us to a less mean system. Time will tell

hermitcrab 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The UK railways are expensive, and I have a car, so I very rarely go by train. But all those road trips cost everyone else, in terms of congestion, pollution etc. Maybe the railways should be regarded as critical infrastructure, run at a loss and subsidised accordingly.

_puk 9 hours ago | parent [-]

You mean nationalised?

You realise even the subsidies go to pay Canadian pension funds [0]

0: https://weownit.org.uk/who-owns-our/railways

hermitcrab 9 hours ago | parent [-]

yes, nationalized and subsidised.

_puk 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Brings back memories of a recent 16 year old stood in tears whilst they took her details to prosecute her because she was travelling on a child ticket "but my mum always bought me a ticket".

No mercy. Fuck those guys.

Same guy that stung me for not having a ticket when every other day they'd come round and let me buy a ticket on the train.. I even went to the window at the destination for a ticket, and then got referred for a penalty fare. Fuck that guy.