| ▲ | scuff3d 13 hours ago |
| Gleam is a great language. It didn't click for me when I was trying it out, but I'm glad to see more people enjoying it. And I wonder if Gleam + Lustre could become the new Elm. |
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| ▲ | dminor an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| I looked at lustre for a recent project and it seems very nice. But the ecosystem is pretty small yet (I could find no examples of auth, for one), so I ended up going with liveview. I'm hoping it succeeds and gets bigger because I really like its ergonomics. |
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| ▲ | tempest_ 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| As a mostly back end dev Elm looked really nice but all the conflict with the creator and then the lack of compiler releases made me shy away a bit. I have bumped into "the Elm architecture" in other projects though and it was nice. |
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| ▲ | rapind 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > all the conflict with the creator Just so no one misunderstands this. The creator (Evan) didn't get into, or start, any drama himself that I ever noticed. I'd argue he's a very chill and nice dude. I've been on the edges of the community for probably a decade now (lurker), and all of the drama came from other people who simply didn't like the BDFL and slow releases strategy. | |
| ▲ | scuff3d 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah I'm not a front end dev but I do kind of keep track of what's going on in that space. From what I saw it seemed Elm was all but dead. Maybe that's not true, but that was the impression from the outside looking in. | | |
| ▲ | culi 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | https://iselmdead.info/ I can't believe this is still up tbh. And I can't believe there's still people defending Elm's lack of development > It’s true that there hasn’t been a new release of the Elm compiler for some time. That’s on purpose: it’s essentially feature-complete. Last talk I saw by Evan Czaplicki (from the 2025 Scala Days conf) he seemed to be working on some sort of database language https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OtN4iiFBsQ | | |
| ▲ | scuff3d 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | I get the sentiment. He feels like everything he wants is there so it doesn't need much more development. But it still feels off. |
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| ▲ | aryonoco 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Not many people use elm directly but it has influenced the design of so many frameworks and libraries. Right now I’m toying with the idea of building a GNOME application in rust, and the framework I’m using is relm4 which provides elm like abstractions over gtk-rs. Previously I’ve built web applications with F# and elmish, which again provides elm like abstractions for building F# applications. | | |
| ▲ | scuff3d 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | The Roc programing language is being developed because Richard Feldman wanted an Elm like experience in more places then just the front end. |
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| ▲ | styluss 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Which conflicts? Gleam seems to be released often? | | |
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| ▲ | rapind 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| I recently used Gleam + Lustre for a small app that I normally would have built with Elm + PostgREST. It went very well, and I'm now planning to use it for a larger rewrite (of a rails app). |
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| ▲ | thelastgallon 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This Lustre? https://www.lustre.org/ Seems to be a filesystem, how would it replace a database? | | | |
| ▲ | scuff3d 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've considered playing around with it. Every now and then I tell myself I'm gonna learn front end dev, but as soon as I start looking at it (FE in general not Lustre specifically) I get depressed and give up lol | |
| ▲ | epolanski 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Anecdotically I recently got into Ruby, via Sinatra, and enjoy the experience. What are you lacking in ruby and rails, besides the types? |
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