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franga2000 3 days ago

There's always a workaround. There are banks with far less annoying root checking and you can just switch. Many banks allow SMS or a physical authenticator for web banking or 3DS 2FA. There are also many was to bypass root detection. If your main problem is 3DS 2FA for online card payments, get a proxy card.

71bw 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

"you can just switch" and yet then you have to contact X people and change Y contracts that are related to your prior bank account. It is not that simple.

Plus nothing ensures the bank you switch to won't up their "defenses" in a week.

franga2000 3 days ago | parent [-]

I never said it was trivial, I said it was possible. In many places, it's actually very easy. In others it takes some work, but we're talking about de-googling your life, having to put in some work is already implied.

At least around here, I can walk into a bank, sign a few papers, then that bank coordinates with my old bank to transfer all my direct debits, move all my money and notify all my periodic creditors (employer, social security, tax office...). Peer-to-peer payments (like splitting bills with friends) are usually done by alias (phone number or email) on our instant payment scheme, not by IBAN, and my new bank will take care of rerouting that too. And if for whatever reason someone has my old IBAN and tries to send me money in the future, they'll get a rejection and will just have to ask me for my new one, no big deal.

As for "in a week", come on, you're just being intentionally annoying. Obviously there's no guarantee. If they don't have root detection now, after everyone has had it for a decade, there's probably a reason and they won't implement it any time soon. And if you're just supremely unlucky and they actually do it right after you switch, oh well, you wasted and afternoon. Definitely less time wasted than trying all the million different root hiding techniques that probably don't work anymore.

rvnx 3 days ago | parent [-]

But you don’t mind paying more and having a worse service IRL when you could just buy a cheap Pixel phone with GrapheneOS on the side ?

Think of it like a car key. You wouldn’t have a crusade against car keys right ?

franga2000 3 days ago | parent [-]

Wait what? Who is paying what? What service is worse? Car keys?? I genuinely, honestly, have no idea what you're talking about.

immibis 3 days ago | parent [-]

Some cars don't come with keys any more - you have to use your phone and the cloud.

Which is good, right? One less thing to lose.

franga2000 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

/s I hope

rvnx 2 days ago | parent [-]

Soon the cars are going to drive away on their own, so what's with the keys anyway ?

majorchord 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> Some cars don't come with keys any more

Can you name one?

Aurornis 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> There's always a workaround.

And the workaround is always far more work than I want to do, for virtually no upside for me.

igor47 2 days ago | parent [-]

Tragedy of the commons in a nutshell.